Introduction: Reconciling Science and Faith
Praise be to God. There is no other god except God.
So last Friday’s sermon, from the scientific perspective, we talked about when Adam existed—when Adam lived. And we kind of gave lots of evidence. A lot of it is a little bit questionable. What I’m saying is that every bit of scientific evidence is always a little bit questionable. But when you compile all of them together, then that’s when it kind of gets strong. So that’s kind of how it works with science always. You have some studies which are a little bit questionable, some are more accurate and then they constantly improve. So like if let’s say many maybe I presented a list of caves, most of them are correct. A few of them might not be, but that still doesn’t disprove what I said because most of them still prove and still show when Adam should have lived.
But today I kind of want to take another approach and look at it from the Quran. And to look at it from the Quran we can actually achieve the same goal of finding it out. But if we do it for Noah and then we can figure it out. We can see that Noah and Adam didn’t live that far from each other. So when did Noah live? Let’s answer this question. When did Noah live?
I wrote some stuff here. Usually I don’t like to prepare them because they kind of force me to speak about this instead of what I want necessarily what I want. But this forces me to read it.
The Timeline of Noah and Adam: Geographic Evidence
Noah must have lived not too long after Adam because
- First reason: If he lived many thousands of years after Adam the people would spread throughout the world by then and only a worldwide flood would be able to destroy them. However, there is no evidence of a worldwide flood which happened from 55,000 years ago until 40,000 years ago.
And we’re looking at this range of years because already from the scientific evidence we sort of concluded that approximately Adam should have lived and Noah should have lived around that time.
But if we assume that Noah lived much later much let’s say 10,000 years later or 20,000 years later or 30,000 years later if we assume that, what would happen is that the people would have spread by then. Because as we saw from the previous example humans spread throughout the earth very quickly within 5,000 to 10,000 years they spread. Like the caves which I presented were in France in Indonesia in different countries. If you look at the oldest ones within 5 to 10,000 years so people spread very fast. And if Noah lived much later than Adam what that would mean, is that by that time pretty much most of the earth would have people and that means if this flood was to destroy all of them as the Quran suggests and as the Bible says, the flood had to destroy all of them. That would mean that the whole earth must have been covered in a flood and we have no evidence of it, literally no evidence.
I’ve looked for it for years initially before I became a submitter years ago. That was kind of let’s say one of my interests was to figure out if there was a worldwide flood. Most of it is pseudoscience meaning fake science. There’s no actual evidence. They present some examples and then when you see that, it doesn’t match and it doesn’t fit anywhere in what people know about archaeology. So it’s just whatever you hear about the global flood, unless it’s way in the past like during the time of dinosaurs and before that. That’s different. But here we’re talking about 50,000 years ago there is no evidence that the whole earth was covered in a flood so that means that Noah must have lived very close to Adam and the flood killed only those people who didn’t have time to spread much from that initial location.
The Timeline of Noah and Adam: Societal Evidence
That is one reason why Noah must have lived very close to the time of Adam. The second reason why Noah couldn’t be born too long after Adam is that
- Second reason: If Noah lived many thousands of years after Adam, given that people between Noah and Adam lived almost a thousand years (these are people who had lots of time to gain knowledge), that would give humans a vast advantage in accumulating knowledge, and within a few thousand years, the world would have a very advanced civilization comparable to ours. However, there is no archaeological evidence of very advanced civilizations during those ancient times.
Let me repeat: if Noah lived thousands of years—like 10,000 or 20,000 years—after Adam, (the people before Noah lived almost a thousand years. Adam lived almost a thousand years, Noah lived almost a thousand years according to the Bible, and the people in between lived almost a thousand year, or close to it), they would have had so much advantage in accumulating knowledge. They didn’t have the equipment, but they could have done it very quickly.
Yet, there’s no evidence that there was an advanced civilization. There’s no evidence that people invented electricity, for example, in those times. There’s no evidence that they had cars; there’s no evidence that they had the basic equipment which we have today. There’s no evidence for that. They had basic tools like maybe swords, bows, and arrows, stuff like that, and this is probably after Noah.
And by the way, if you hear about evidence about this, there are so many fake stories, fake science, and religious people trying to prove something which has nothing to do with science. There’s actually a few famous people—by famous I mean people who pretend to be famous historians but they’re actually not famous according to the other historians—who say that there must have been advanced civilizations. Like Atlantis, the civilizations mentioned by Plato and things like that. If what they mean by advanced is like the pyramids in Egypt and stuff like that, yeah, that happened very likely, because history didn’t go very smoothly; it was ups and downs. However, those ups never reached the level we have today; they never had cars until our times.
They would have reached the level of having cars and things like that if Noah came a long time after Adam, because those people again had a vast advantage in living long. When you live a thousand years, you have time to learn, and you can pass that knowledge to others, and you known more people to whom you can transmit that knowledge.
Scriptural Alignment: The Bible and the Quran
Because of these facts—given that there are no advanced civilizations in the past (meaning comparable to ours) and given that there’s no evidence of a worldwide flood during that time—that means that Noah must have lived very close to Adam. This means that people were just local people; they didn’t have time to spread throughout the earth and explore everything we know today.
Conclusion: So, Noah must have lived not too long after Adam. This is confirmed by the Bible, which says that Noah was born only 156 years after the creation of Adam, which is only 126 years after the death of Adam.
Context Note: Now, I didn’t use the Bible in the last sermon. In one of the chapters of the Bible, I said that it’s a fake chapter because we saw that that chapter had contradictions with the Quran. Now, this chapter does not have contradictions with the Quran—the chapter where we can find how much time there was between Noah and Adam.
In this chapter [Genesis 5], we can see the seven days of creation and things like that, which fit with what I concluded from the Quran regarding the seven days of creation. And there’s a video clarification online about the seven days of creation where I explain what they mean, but they match what the Bible says and what I said; they fit together.
Plus, the Quran says that Noah lived 950 years, and the Bible in this chapter also says that Noah lived 950 years, which means that they fit. This is a very strong indication that this chapter is in agreement with the Quran, which means that the data in this chapter are quite reliable. Not perfect, but quite reliable.
So if you go to the Bible, Chapter 5 [Genesis], we see the dates of when Adam had sons and how long he lived. Adam lived 930 years according to this. When Seth, one of his sons, had sons… basically, we can calculate from these numbers here, which we can find from Adam until Noah, how many years have passed. And if we do that addition—AI can do it for you—we end up with 156 years after the creation of Adam as the time when Noah was born, which is only 126 years after the death of Adam. So after Adam died, about 126 years passed, and then Noah was born. It is very close to one another.
Knowing that they are close to one another, if we figure out from the Quran at what time Noah lived, we can use that to know when Adam lived. Basically, all we have to do is find when Noah lived, and then we pretty much know when Adam lived, very close to it.
So, when did Noah live according to the Quran? Let’s repent first before we go into the details of this. Let’s repent.
Analyzing Surah 20 and the Meaning of ‘Remain’:
Praise be to God. There is no other god except God.
So let’s find out when Noah lived according to the Quran based on the verses of the Quran. So in Surah 20 verse 102 it says,
[20:102] The day when the horn will be blown, and we will gather the wrongdoers, with bruised eyes.
[20:103] They are murmuring among themselves, “You did not remain but ten (days).
And the key word here is remain and I’ll tell in this verse (2:259) what it means.
[20:104] We know best what they will say when their behavior models
The Quran says examples or models. Models of how to behave. I translated it as “Behavior models” as this is from Arabic if you look at English translations which are ready it might not help you much I’m going straight to the Arabic word for word.
[20:104] We know best what they will say when their behavior models will say, “You did not remain (dead) except a day”
Now a lot of these verses and quite often when people read them I understand that they understand them that you did not remain in the first life. That’s also a good understanding. But also the word remain also means that you did not remain dead. And how do we know this? We can go to this verse and see what it means. So let’s let’s click this verse and go there. Here’s what that word remain means. And it’s the same Arabic word, by the way. You can click on it and it’s going to send you to other verses and stuff like that.
So here’s an example of a person who died and then God tells him how long he remained. And the same word is used in Arabic, the same Arabic word. Which means that it’s talking about how long he remained dead, not how long he remained alive. Let’s see from the context here. And this is from Arabic again.
[2:259] Or like the one who passed by a township and it had overturned on its roof. He said how will bring to life…
I want to read word by word and it sometimes the flow doesn’t go very well, but you guys can understand it.
[2:259] … this town Allah (God) after its death then he was made to die…
So the person who asked how long before God resurrects this town God caused that person to die then he was made to die
[2:259] … by God by Allah for a hundred years…
So the person was put to death for 100 years. And this is a story in the Quran.
[2:259] … Then he raised him. (So then God raised him). And then (God) said, “How long you remained?”…
Meaning how long you remain dead, not how long you remained alive because the person was resurrected after 100 years.
[2:259] … He said, “I remained for a day or a part of a day.” He said, “No, you have remained 100 years.”
And it’s confirming here that God is talking about the how long he was dead. So how long you have remained dead.
And this is the same word by the way you guys can click here if you use this website and you can check that that word is the same word which is used in the other verse in the in verse in surah 20 verse 103. We can find here surah 20 verse 103. You see it’s the same words (labithtum). If we click there now, we’ll find this surah which we used. So it’s the same word. It’s used in a similar context. And that tells us that here when God says how long you remained, it has two meanings. First of all, how long you remained in the first life. But the more important meaning for our study is that this word is actually used by God to say how long you remained dead. From the time you died until the time you get resurrected. So the people will be talking about how long they remained in the grave, how long they were dead.
Identifying the “Behavior Models” of Transgression
So basically God resurrects them and the best like the best model I don’t mean best in the the best souls meaning that the people who are an example for bad people. And by the way, let me actually explain this part as well because this is a key word as well. This is in the Quran in surah 20 verse 104. It literally means example but example can be a good example or a bad example. And we see this exact word being used for the wife of Noah which was a bad example. The verse says something like and God gave an example for you the wife of Noah which is a bad bad example. The wife as a bad person. So the same word which is used as a behavior model for good people. The bad people also have their behavior models. Meaning that some people who behave so bad, it’s a pattern of how to behave badly. It’s a model of bad behavior.
So these people will say when they get resurrected, you did not remain and again we confirmed that the word remain is used about how long they stayed dead. You did not remain dead except a day. So basically when the people the worst people because they are a model for bad behavior they must be the worst people. When the worst people and who are the worst people? The Quran says in one of the verses that the past generations are better when it comes to believers are better than the later generations. But also we can infer it (the other way around) with some combination with some other verses. I explain it in another video that the past generations; the bad people, are worse than the generations of today. So basically they were more extreme. The people of the past were more extreme. They were models for people of the future. If they were bad, they were really bad. If they were good, they were really good.
Now, these people were really bad. And that means they must have been far in the past. And the first people to be bad—the first community to be truly bad, is the time of Noah. Because when Adam was created he taught his (people how to be good)—of course his two sons one of them was a bad person he was kicked out. But as a community they remained good until the time of Noah. And that’s the first time when God destroyed the first community of disbelievers. So that means that they are sort of at the edge of the bad people meaning that one of the worst people if not the worst. So this means that those people are included in this verse which means that they will say you did not remain dead except a day. So they will speak and they will say you did not remain dead except a day when they talk to one another. What does this mean? How how long is a day? And they will be saying that on the day of resurrection. How long is a day? Well, a day is there’s actually only two ways we can go about it. But I’m going with a meaning which serves our study. Of course, I can use the other meaning as well where we can conclude something else. We can conclude about the life of Noah. But here we’re talking about the death of disbelievers.
The Length of a Day and Chronology of Resurrection
According to the Quran
[Surah 70:4] Ascend the angels and the spirit to Him (to God) in a day which has a length of 50,000 years.
So here is a verse which says that a day at God is 50,000 years. Now there’s another verse in the Quran which says that a day is a thousand years. I know that but that refers to a day at your lord meaning that when we get resurrected on earth a day will be a thousand years. Basically a day when we get resurrected in the messianic age when Jesus will be the leader of the believers (The End Times). So that day will be a thousand years but here we’re talking about the day in the sky. Up there with God it’s 50,000 years and these people will be people who will be resurrected in the next world. So when they refer to a day they don’t know but God knows that it’s 50,000 years.
So here we have them saying that they did not remain dead except a day and then the verse tells us that a day is a length of 50,000 years. So basically we just replace this like whoever knows math knows when you know x you can replace it with the new value. So basically a day is 50,000 years that means that the people of Noah remained dead according to them for 50,000 years. So the behavior models the first generation of criminals meaning the people of Noah and a few people after them remained in the grave 50,000 lunar—by the way these are lunar years we can explain about that another day—50,000 lunar years until they get resurrected.
To know when they died, we first have to know when they will be resurrected. And 50,000 years before that is going to be when they died in this world. So when will the biggest criminals be resurrected? And this is there’s some nuances here. So as we know the end of the world is the year 2280. We know this. We have videos about this (The End of the World, Explaining Quranic Initials, Predicting the Future). We know that already. However, what I haven’t mentioned very specifically, I think it’s inferred in the video, The End Times, part of it is mentioned, but part of it is inferred is that there’s going to be a period of 40 years between when people die and between the when people start to get resurrected, between the first horn and the second horn. Meaning that imagine the world is going to be destroyed. Everyone will die in the year 2280. The Quran doesn’t mention these 40 years because it doesn’t make sense to mention them. The Quran counts the years according to the sun and the moon, but the sun and the moon will be destroyed. So, we’re just measuring what would have been years. I’m not saying that these are actual years. This is what would have been years. Like if someone was alive it would feel like 40 years. And during that time pretty much all people will be dead during these 40 years except for Jesus and someone else so that they can witness the resurrection of the people.
After these 40 years then there’s going to be a thousand years until the worst people get resurrected. In the video of the end times I explain how the best people get resurrected first starting from Adam. Of course Jesus was even before that but starting from Abraham (not Adam). Starting from Abraham, from the best people to the worst people and so as time passes those people go into the city of believers but the disbelievers will not be resurrected until the end of that period. The Quran says that’s when Gog and Magog will be returned. The Quran says it is prohibited for the bad people, the criminal communities of the past to be returned until Gog and Magog return. And Gog and Magog are the least bad people because they are similar to animals and animals are not that bad. Animals are between good and bad. So Gog and Magog are between good and bad. So when Gog and Magog get resurrected, that’s when others after them get resurrected which are worse people worse than them. The Quran says they are worse than animals. The bad people are worse than animals.
What this means is that the criminals from the time of Noah they will be resurrected definitely after this thousand-year period because they are the worst. And that would be the year. So, plus we add 40 years. We add 1,000 years and that would this would bring us to the year 3,320.
And this is a hypothetical year because the sun and the moon do not exist. So, really people will stop counting the years. We’re just talking about how long it will be. If we had a clock it would show or a clock with a calendar or you know how our phones had calendars (they will be destroyed). If they survived, it would count a thousand years plus 40 years from the time when the world gets destroyed until the bad people, the worst bad people get resurrected. So they will be resurrected in the year 3320.
So all we have to do is ask AI of course so we don’t calculate it ourselves. It’s easier. Ask AI how long from that year 50,000 lunar years ago?
So this is the question I asked AI. I said, “How many solar years before now is 50,000 lunar years before the solar year 3320?”
It’s kind of a long question, but AI is smart enough. It knows what I’m asking. And this is the answer. The answer which AI gave me. I did it myself as well. I calculated it myself and I got got the same answer. So this is what AI tells you. If you ask this question to AI, it’s going to give you this answer.
So the year is 47,217 years ago from now.
From now if we go in the past for about 40,000 years ago that’s when the worst people of the time of Noah died approximately. It’s a very nuanced thing to say that actually even before the flood came some of their fathers were bad and stuff like that. Anyway but it’s close time so approximately at this time not exactly necessarily, approximately.
Linguistic Analysis of Noah’s Lifespan in the Quran
So this is one method to figure out when Noah lived. Another method to figure out when Noah lived is to look more directly in the verses which talk about Noah. Verses which talk about Noah.
[Surah 29 Verse 14] Indeed we sent Noah to his people. So he remained …
again the same word same word and we learned from the previous verses that remained can refer to life but it more importantly it can refer to death as well or to the time spent in the grave.
[Surah 29 Verse 14] … So he remained with them a thousand (lunar) years, but fifty flows (or cycles)…
and this is the literal translation from the Quran
[Surah 29 Verse 14] … Then seizes them the deluge and they were the wrongdoers.
First of all, before I go into explaining the rest of it, let me explain this part. Why did I translate it like this? 50 flows instead of 50 years. Now, the thousand years which are given here, there’s a word in the Quran which means lunar year. I think it’s sina or something. Anyway, let’s go to this verse. Surah 29 verse 14. So he says, “And verily we sent Noah to his people and he remained again the same word as in the other verses he remained the same Arabic word I cannot pronounce it that’s why I’m not reading it but I can see it’s the same. And he remained among them a thousand years. Here’s a word which is used for year here, sanatin. So he remained with them a thousand years save and they translated it like this save but ila means but, except, more literally it means but. So he remained with them but fifty a’man. So it’s a different word now this is Sanatin but now it’s a’man. According to traditional scholars this word a’man means an easy years because it flows easy. This is the interpretation of that. What they don’t understand is that it wouldn’t make sense. Why would God use a sanat for a hard year and a’man for an easy year? And how do they know that these years were not actually easy as well? So they don’t have evidence that actually a’man means easy year and sanat means hard year. It makes no logical sense. Why would years be named differently?
What it means is that one of them is a lunar year, the other one is a solar year. And the reason why the people the Arabs misunderstood it, is because when they said a’man—their ancestors meant solar year—what they meant is the flow of time. Like let’s say in northern countries sometimes they will say a person lived fifty springs meaning fifty times there was a spring. And some old people will say that. I’ve heard I think my grandma like how many springs have you lived. Basically how many solar years; how many times the seasons have changed; how many times has the climate changed in your area. That’s how they kind of measured it. And now in Saudi Arabia, if the time changed from very hot into a little bit colder and more easy—because there it was generally hot if it became a little bit more easy, a little bit rain, and nice weather, they would count it as one a’man. Meaning one solar year because that was based on the the sun. Eventually that meant easy year, but originally it didn’t mean easy year, it originally meant solar year. Because it counted the flow of seasons. Let’s say from spring to spring or from winter to winter they don’t have spring there so it’s more from winter to winter.
So what this mean what this word here means solar year. However, there’s a deeper meaning to it. Anyone can search it online and just search etymology of the word a’man and you will see that it actually (literally) means flow or cycle. So the time flowing. So if we translate it literally, forget the context, forget what this Saudi scholars think about it. If we just forget about it and translate it literally, what the Quran actually says and trust the Quran. Because God wouldn’t use that word if he didn’t actually mean that. If we trust the Quran then we and we translate it literally, we would have to translate it:
- Ila means but
- Khamsina means 50.
- A’man means flow or cycle.
Now let’s translate it exactly in literal way in the exact way it was done in Arabic and see how we get a different meaning. It doesn’t mean that the previous meaning was wrong. It just means that we can get another meaning which is deeper than that.
So let’s see now what it’s telling us. And this is the literal translation.
[29:14] Indeed we sent Noah to his people. So he remained with them a thousand (lunar) years, but fifty flows (or cycles)…
Meaning fifty flows of a thousand lunar years and that’s why this verse is expressed weirdly like this because God could have said that Noah lived 950 years which is true however he didn’t say it like that. God said he lived with them a thousand lunar years but fifty flows. Fifty which we can understand today as cycles because we know that those flows are cycles.
[29:14] … Then seizes them the deluge and they were the wrongdoers
So fifty flows or cycles of a thousand lunar years, I hope you understand the way I’m understanding it. So he remained with them a thousand lunar years but we’re talking about fifty flows of those thousand lunar years. So fifty flows of a thousand lunar years is 50,000 lunar years. So from the year when Noah was born until Noah gets resurrected, there are fifty thousand lunar years.
Now by the way, now here I’m including also Noah’s life. Why? Because above here it says how long you have remained. But here it says how long Noah remained with them. The word here is with them. So Noah remained with them. What does this mean? This includes his life as well because Noah first was with his people when he was alive. Then when he died according to the Quran the believers go straight to heaven. His sons also went to heaven. So he remained with his people even after he died and until the end of the thousand years there. So this means that we’re counting both Noah’s life and death. So this means that from the year when Noah was born until Noah gets resurrected including his life after let’s say his earthly life in the next world when the basically one thousand years more, there are 50,000 lunar years.
So Noah will be resurrected around the year 2320. How I explained this already which is here in the plus 40 years. So the end of the world will come in the year 2280. We add 40 years to that. Here we don’t add a thousand another thousand years necessarily. However, we had to add them because it says how how long he remained with them with his people. It says his people and his people also includes his sons. Those are his people. So and his sons are in the next world will be in within those 10,000 years because they were believers. They believed with Noah. They got saved with Noah. So 50 50 so from the year when Noah was born until Noah gets resurrected there are 50,000 lunar years Noah will be resurrected around the year 2320 which is 40 years after after 2280 plus still stay among his believing people meaning his sons and whatever the people who believed with him for 1,000 years which makes it the year 3320. So again we came back to that same year in a different way from different verses.
And now all we have to do ask AI, “How many solar years before now is 50,000 lunar years before the solar year 3320.”
It looks like a long question but AI understands.
So Noah and the answer is the year is 47,217 solar years (because we asked about solar years) before now. So Noah was born about 47,000 years before now. And this is the answer.
And then the flood according to the Bible came when Noah was 600 lunar years old years years old. That’s in the Bible. That means that the flood came around 46,635 solar years before now. So about 46,000 years give or take approximately.
By the way, why approximately? And I hope it’s not going to be a long explanation. I’m saying approximately even though we found the exact year, because what the Quran does when the Quran mentions let’s say numbers of things, it always mentions whole numbers. So basically if there’s 12 months in a year in a solar year God is going to just say 12 but it could be 12.5 or 12.2 the Quran never mentions that point thing like a little bit more because God only counts the whole things. The Quran says that God perfected everything. God made complete literally we can in Arabic it means God made complete everything which means that if it’s not complete God is not going to count it. God never says in the Quran four and a half months. If it’s four and a half months, God is just going to say four months. He doesn’t count those. If God wants to be more accurate, he’s going to tell us in days. He’s going to say, let’s say, I don’t know how much is 4 and a half months, 135 days, let’s say. So if God wants to tell us that exact period and he wants to be that exact, he’s going to tell us 135 days. But he’s not going to say four and a half months. Never in the Quran you find half a month or half a year, never. The reason is that God counts only the complete things. Whatever is extra is not counted. Which means that when God says here 50 flows of a thousand years, it could have been 50.1 flows. It could have been 50.7 flows. It could have been 50.9 flows. And that’s a range of a thousand years. About a thousand years. So from 50 up up to 51, that’s about and all of those would have been counted 50 according to the way God counts things in the Quran. If you wanted to make it more exact, he could. But he said 50 flows of a thousand years, which means from 50,000 years up to 51,000 years. All of that is within that meaning. So that’s why I’m saying it approximately at this time because it could have been this time or up to a thousand years later or earlier whichever I don’t know. I think it’s earlier which whichever makes sense. You guys can figure it out.
Scientific Confirmation: Dansgaard-Oeschger (DO) Cycles
Now is there scientific evidence that flood came around the year around this year around 46,000 or 47,000 years ago? And we can find that evidence in science. There’s this thing called Dansgaard-Oeschger or it’s easier to say DO. Usually scientists will use the the acronym DO cycles. What are they? They are abrupt rapid climate fluctuations that occur 25 times during the last glacier period. First discovered in Greenland ice cores. That’s why they are also known as as GI think Greenland interstadials because that’s where they were discovered. So they are also known as the GI cycles. But here we’re just using this DO cycles. So they were discovered in Greenland ice cores by these two guys. That’s how they got the name from their last names. And they feature a sudden spike in temperatures rising from about 5 degrees Celsius to 16 degrees Celsius in mere decade. So within let’s say a decade or two or three let’s say about 50,000 years whatever it doesn’t matter but it’s very short when it comes to climate changes followed by a gradual cooling over centuries. These cycles are among the most dramatic climate shifts in Earth’s history, highlighting how unstable the climate can be during ice ages.
Now, these cycles, as we can see, there’s 25 of those. And the one which is the DO12, the 12th in a row, DO12 started around 46 according to scientists. And by the way, this is approximate because they say that it could be about 500 years later or 500 years earlier like approximately at that time. But it’s quite accurate. It’s quite accurate within a within 500 years. So DO12 started around 46,900 years. Again, as you can see, it matches this this time year time period here. This is accurate down to a thousand years. This is accurate down to about 500 years. So DO12 started around 46,900 years ago (44,900 BC) and that’s kind of the start and it ended around 44,400 years ago (42,400 BC).
Now what do these DO cycles do? What is a DO cycle?
A DO cycle is basically the sudden heating it looks like they still don’t have an exact explanation. It was a sudden heating of the north here which is close to Greenland basically north of Norway. If you guys can see the world map here it’s the sudden heating and that comes usually from the Atlantic. Like the there’s some change in the flow of the Atlantic Ocean and there’s there’s sudden heating up to 12 degrees within a decade or so or a few decades. And that’s a big change. That’s bigger than what we see today. They make a big deal about the climate change. What they’re talking about is only one degree. Here, 12 degrees changed within about 50 years.
Now, what does that do for the rest of the earth? What that does for the rest of the earth, we have the map, the other map here, is if you look here at the south of Iraq, which is here, south of Iraq, and you can ask AI, by the way, ask AI, How does DO12 change the rain in the south of Iraq? I mean how does the DO12 the climate cycle the DO12 how did it change the the things in the south of Iraq it will tell you that it increased the rain and these blue regions are where the rain increased so it increased in Africa and south of Iraq in other places it made it more dry but here in south of Iraq which is where Noah and and Adam lived God willing I’ll deal with it another day so in that region south of Iraq it increased the rain flow.
The Heinrich Event Mechanics
Now what’s interesting is that yeah the rain the rain there were there was more rain even in Africa and even part of let’s say Asia here. However, why was there no flood there? The key difference here is that in that period of time south of Iraq was a desert meaning like very dry and everyone knows when it’s very dry like when the land is very dry not not everyone but like most people know that when the land is very dry it kind of becomes like cement and that’s when if the rain is sudden during that time there’s a flood like it happens even today there’s floods if you have a very dry region and there is a and there’s sudden rain, it’s going to cause a flood because why? Because the earth becomes so dry, it becomes like a cement and the the water doesn’t go inside like it the earth doesn’t suck the water. It’s just kind of it stays on top of the earth.
How do we know it was dry? Because this DO cycle came exactly or very soon after what’s called a Heinrich Heinrich event. What is a Heinrich event?
You guys can research this stuff. You don’t have to because I’m telling you, but you can. A Heinrich event is again one of those cycles which causes actually dry land in south of Iraq. It causes cooling in most of the earth but it also causes dry land in south of Iraq. What we have here this red graph is the DO cycle which measures the warming by the way this is the last 10,000 years you can see humans have kind of changed stuff but anyway so here we have a graph which is from zero up down to 60,000 years ago and here around 46,000 years ago we have DO cycle 12. If you guys can see it’s number 12. But also at this just at this time just before this the H5 Heinrich event happens so basically this is the closest they get. So these gray areas are Heinrich events. The gray areas are Heinrich events. The red graph is the DO cycles numbered. All of them are numbered.
And what we can see is that let’s say Heinrich event 6 and then DO cycle 17 are not as close. Heinrich event 5A and DO cycle 14 are not as close to one another. However, when it comes to Heinrich event 5 and DO cycle 12 are very close to one another. Basically, at the end of one, the other starts, which means that when it’s really dry in Iraq, that’s when a lot of rain happened at this time in human history. And that’s perfect conditions for a flood. Basically, if you have those conditions, that’s going to cause a flood in that area.
Now some sort of not as strong but similar floods might have happened later. We can see Heinrich events later but they are not as close to the DO cycles and people were more prepared and actually the I can show you another day why Iraq had changed by then it became like because the southern part of Iraq was actually not a sea in the past like this what they call the Persian Gulf it at that time it was actually not a sea it was land. So, but that’s another day another discussion when I explain about where where did Adam and Noah live. But here all I’m trying to say is that these are perfect conditions for a flood because it was a really dry cycle. Immediately after it rain came and this is let’s say scientifically we have strong evidence that very likely there was a flood in south of Iraq about 46,000 years ago which is about the time when Noah the Quran tells us that Noah lived. That’s it. And does anyone have any question quickly though because I spent too much time.
Q&A: Clarification on the Timeline Base Year
Oh, so Guillaume is asking, “Before now is before 2026 or before Jesus?
No, before now is before 2026. That’s how I wanted the AI to tell me the years. Typically they in science they will say when they say before now they mean before the year 2000 in when they measure these cycles. So they measure them from the year 2000 which is 26 years ago. Some scientists will measure it from 1950. It doesn’t matter a lot but they usually don’t measure it from the time of Jesus. If they measure it from the time of Jesus, they will represent it as before Christ BC. But here we we’re not talking with any BC numbers. None of these are in BC.
So see age here it says in this graph it says age ka means thousand years before present not before Christ before present meaning before 2000 or before 1950. So yeah, that introduces about 26 years of difference between what I found and what they found. So we’re talking about only 26 years difference, but not before Jesus. Everything I spoke here is not before Jesus. We’re talking before now or before the year 2000. I used it myself before the year 2026 because I wanted you guys to think really from your perspective. But usually scientists will say before 2000. One more question. So yeah, it’s important actually to distinguish that because when you do research, if you do research with AI and stuff like that, it might tell you a year and then that’s going to confuse you if you don’t know if you’re talking BC or BP. BP is before present.
Faisal is saying, “Very insightful. Thank you.”
So we know when Noah lived, which is around 47,000 solar years before now. That means let’s add about a thousand years because we already knew from the Bible that Adam lived about a thousand years before that.
Final Timeline Conclusion: Dating the Creation of Adam
So let’s make let’s say the final conclusion. So let’s add another conclusion here.
So Adam was created around 48,217 years about 1,000 years more so about 48,000 years ago from now (solar years) Adam was created.
Now if anyone finds paintings before that it’s because they haven’t done the study accurately. And scientists sometimes will compete to find the oldest painting. Or it probably might not be a painting. It might be just a hand sign or a or a line or something. But if we are going to use reliable scientists which unfortunately typically are western scientists you cannot find any painting which is older than that—human made painting; realistic painting or a statue.
For those who have to do the contact prayer, do the contact prayer and the rest of you peace be upon you.
Friday Sermon by: Alban Fejza, Online Congregation Director