Month: July 2026

Introduction: Reconciling Science and Faith

Praise be to God. There is no other god except God.

So last Friday’s sermon, from the scientific perspective, we talked about when Adam existed—when Adam lived. And we kind of gave lots of evidence. A lot of it is a little bit questionable. What I’m saying is that every bit of scientific evidence is always a little bit questionable. But when you compile all of them together, then that’s when it kind of gets strong. So that’s kind of how it works with science always. You have some studies which are a little bit questionable, some are more accurate and then they constantly improve. So like if let’s say many maybe I presented a list of caves, most of them are correct. A few of them might not be, but that still doesn’t disprove what I said because most of them still prove and still show when Adam should have lived.

But today I kind of want to take another approach and look at it from the Quran. And to look at it from the Quran we can actually achieve the same goal of finding it out. But if we do it for Noah and then we can figure it out. We can see that Noah and Adam didn’t live that far from each other. So when did Noah live? Let’s answer this question. When did Noah live?

I wrote some stuff here. Usually I don’t like to prepare them because they kind of force me to speak about this instead of what I want necessarily what I want. But this forces me to read it.

The Timeline of Noah and Adam: Geographic Evidence

Noah must have lived not too long after Adam because

• First reason: If he lived many thousands of years after Adam the people would spread throughout the world by then and only a worldwide flood would be able to destroy them. However, there is no evidence of a worldwide flood which happened from 55,000 years ago until 40,000 years ago.

And we’re looking at this range of years because already from the scientific evidence we sort of concluded that approximately Adam should have lived and Noah should have lived around that time.

But if we assume that Noah lived much later much let’s say 10,000 years later or 20,000 years later or 30,000 years later if we assume that, what would happen is that the people would have spread by then. Because as we saw from the previous example humans spread throughout the earth very quickly within 5,000 to 10,000 years they spread. Like the caves which I presented were in France in Indonesia in different countries. If you look at the oldest ones within 5 to 10,000 years so people spread very fast. And if Noah lived much later than Adam what that would mean, is that by that time pretty much most of the earth would have people and that means if this flood was to destroy all of them as the Quran suggests and as the Bible says, the flood had to destroy all of them. That would mean that the whole earth must have been covered in a flood and we have no evidence of it, literally no evidence.

I’ve looked for it for years initially before I became a submitter years ago. That was kind of let’s say one of my interests was to figure out if there was a worldwide flood. Most of it is pseudoscience meaning fake science. There’s no actual evidence. They present some examples and then when you see that, it doesn’t match and it doesn’t fit anywhere in what people know about archaeology. So it’s just whatever you hear about the global flood, unless it’s way in the past like during the time of dinosaurs and before that. That’s different. But here we’re talking about 50,000 years ago there is no evidence that the whole earth was covered in a flood so that means that Noah must have lived very close to Adam and the flood killed only those people who didn’t have time to spread much from that initial location.

The Timeline of Noah and Adam: Societal Evidence

That is one reason why Noah must have lived very close to the time of Adam. The second reason why Noah couldn’t be born too long after Adam is that

• Second reason: If Noah lived many thousands of years after Adam, given that people between Noah and Adam lived almost a thousand years (these are people who had lots of time to gain knowledge), that would give humans a vast advantage in accumulating knowledge, and within a few thousand years, the world would have a very advanced civilization comparable to ours. However, there is no archaeological evidence of very advanced civilizations during those ancient times.

Let me repeat: if Noah lived thousands of years—like 10,000 or 20,000 years—after Adam, (the people before Noah lived almost a thousand years. Adam lived almost a thousand years, Noah lived almost a thousand years according to the Bible, and the people in between lived almost a thousand year, or close to it), they would have had so much advantage in accumulating knowledge. They didn’t have the equipment, but they could have done it very quickly.

Yet, there’s no evidence that there was an advanced civilization. There’s no evidence that people invented electricity, for example, in those times. There’s no evidence that they had cars; there’s no evidence that they had the basic equipment which we have today. There’s no evidence for that. They had basic tools like maybe swords, bows, and arrows, stuff like that, and this is probably after Noah.

And by the way, if you hear about evidence about this, there are so many fake stories, fake science, and religious people trying to prove something which has nothing to do with science. There’s actually a few famous people—by famous I mean people who pretend to be famous historians but they’re actually not famous according to the other historians—who say that there must have been advanced civilizations. Like Atlantis, the civilizations mentioned by Plato and things like that. If what they mean by advanced is like the pyramids in Egypt and stuff like that, yeah, that happened very likely, because history didn’t go very smoothly; it was ups and downs. However, those ups never reached the level we have today; they never had cars until our times.

They would have reached the level of having cars and things like that if Noah came a long time after Adam, because those people again had a vast advantage in living long. When you live a thousand years, you have time to learn, and you can pass that knowledge to others, and you known more people to whom you can transmit that knowledge.

Scriptural Alignment: The Bible and the Quran

Because of these facts—given that there are no advanced civilizations in the past (meaning comparable to ours) and given that there’s no evidence of a worldwide flood during that time—that means that Noah must have lived very close to Adam. This means that people were just local people; they didn’t have time to spread throughout the earth and explore everything we know today.

Conclusion: So, Noah must have lived not too long after Adam. This is confirmed by the Bible, which says that Noah was born only 156 years after the creation of Adam, which is only 126 years after the death of Adam.

Context Note: Now, I didn’t use the Bible in the last sermon. In one of the chapters of the Bible, I said that it’s a fake chapter because we saw that that chapter had contradictions with the Quran. Now, this chapter does not have contradictions with the Quran—the chapter where we can find how much time there was between Noah and Adam.

In this chapter [Genesis 5], we can see the seven days of creation and things like that, which fit with what I concluded from the Quran regarding the seven days of creation. And there’s a video clarification online about the seven days of creation where I explain what they mean, but they match what the Bible says and what I said; they fit together.

Plus, the Quran says that Noah lived 950 years, and the Bible in this chapter also says that Noah lived 950 years, which means that they fit. This is a very strong indication that this chapter is in agreement with the Quran, which means that the data in this chapter are quite reliable. Not perfect, but quite reliable.

So if you go to the Bible, Chapter 5 [Genesis], we see the dates of when Adam had sons and how long he lived. Adam lived 930 years according to this. When Seth, one of his sons, had sons… basically, we can calculate from these numbers here, which we can find from Adam until Noah, how many years have passed. And if we do that addition—AI can do it for you—we end up with 156 years after the creation of Adam as the time when Noah was born, which is only 126 years after the death of Adam. So after Adam died, about 126 years passed, and then Noah was born. It is very close to one another.

Knowing that they are close to one another, if we figure out from the Quran at what time Noah lived, we can use that to know when Adam lived. Basically, all we have to do is find when Noah lived, and then we pretty much know when Adam lived, very close to it.

So, when did Noah live according to the Quran? Let’s repent first before we go into the details of this. Let’s repent.

Analyzing Surah 20 and the Meaning of ‘Remain’:

Praise be to God. There is no other god except God.

So let’s find out when Noah lived according to the Quran based on the verses of the Quran. So in Surah 20 verse 102 it says,

[20:102] The day when the horn will be blown, and we will gather the wrongdoers, with bruised eyes.

[20:103] They are murmuring among themselves, “You did not remain but ten (days).

And the key word here is remain and I’ll tell in this verse (2:259) what it means.

[20:104] We know best what they will say when their behavior models

The Quran says examples or models. Models of how to behave. I translated it as “Behavior models” as this is from Arabic if you look at English translations which are ready it might not help you much I’m going straight to the Arabic word for word.

[20:104] We know best what they will say when their behavior models will say, “You did not remain (dead) except a day”

Now a lot of these verses and quite often when people read them I understand that they understand them that you did not remain in the first life. That’s also a good understanding. But also the word remain also means that you did not remain dead. And how do we know this? We can go to this verse and see what it means. So let’s let’s click this verse and go there. Here’s what that word remain means. And it’s the same Arabic word, by the way. You can click on it and it’s going to send you to other verses and stuff like that.

So here’s an example of a person who died and then God tells him how long he remained. And the same word is used in Arabic, the same Arabic word. Which means that it’s talking about how long he remained dead, not how long he remained alive. Let’s see from the context here. And this is from Arabic again.

[2:259] Or like the one who passed by a township and it had overturned on its roof. He said how will bring to life…

I want to read word by word and it sometimes the flow doesn’t go very well, but you guys can understand it.

[2:259] … this town Allah (God) after its death then he was made to die…

So the person who asked how long before God resurrects this town God caused that person to die then he was made to die

[2:259] … by God by Allah for a hundred years…

So the person was put to death for 100 years. And this is a story in the Quran.

[2:259] … Then he raised him. (So then God raised him). And then (God) said, “How long you remained?”…

Meaning how long you remain dead, not how long you remained alive because the person was resurrected after 100 years.

[2:259] … He said, “I remained for a day or a part of a day.” He said, “No, you have remained 100 years.”

And it’s confirming here that God is talking about the how long he was dead. So how long you have remained dead.

And this is the same word by the way you guys can click here if you use this website and you can check that that word is the same word which is used in the other verse in the in verse in surah 20 verse 103. We can find here surah 20 verse 103. You see it’s the same words (labithtum). If we click there now, we’ll find this surah which we used. So it’s the same word. It’s used in a similar context. And that tells us that here when God says how long you remained, it has two meanings. First of all, how long you remained in the first life. But the more important meaning for our study is that this word is actually used by God to say how long you remained dead. From the time you died until the time you get resurrected. So the people will be talking about how long they remained in the grave, how long they were dead.

Identifying the “Behavior Models” of Transgression

So basically God resurrects them and the best like the best model I don’t mean best in the the best souls meaning that the people who are an example for bad people. And by the way, let me actually explain this part as well because this is a key word as well. This is in the Quran in surah 20 verse 104. It literally means example but example can be a good example or a bad example. And we see this exact word being used for the wife of Noah which was a bad example. The verse says something like and God gave an example for you the wife of Noah which is a bad bad example. The wife as a bad person. So the same word which is used as a behavior model for good people. The bad people also have their behavior models. Meaning that some people who behave so bad, it’s a pattern of how to behave badly. It’s a model of bad behavior.

So these people will say when they get resurrected, you did not remain and again we confirmed that the word remain is used about how long they stayed dead. You did not remain dead except a day. So basically when the people the worst people because they are a model for bad behavior they must be the worst people. When the worst people and who are the worst people? The Quran says in one of the verses that the past generations are better when it comes to believers are better than the later generations. But also we can infer it (the other way around) with some combination with some other verses. I explain it in another video that the past generations; the bad people, are worse than the generations of today. So basically they were more extreme. The people of the past were more extreme. They were models for people of the future. If they were bad, they were really bad. If they were good, they were really good.

Now, these people were really bad. And that means they must have been far in the past. And the first people to be bad—the first community to be truly bad, is the time of Noah. Because when Adam was created he taught his (people how to be good)—of course his two sons one of them was a bad person he was kicked out. But as a community they remained good until the time of Noah. And that’s the first time when God destroyed the first community of disbelievers. So that means that they are sort of at the edge of the bad people meaning that one of the worst people if not the worst. So this means that those people are included in this verse which means that they will say you did not remain dead except a day. So they will speak and they will say you did not remain dead except a day when they talk to one another. What does this mean? How how long is a day? And they will be saying that on the day of resurrection. How long is a day? Well, a day is there’s actually only two ways we can go about it. But I’m going with a meaning which serves our study. Of course, I can use the other meaning as well where we can conclude something else. We can conclude about the life of Noah. But here we’re talking about the death of disbelievers.

The Length of a Day and Chronology of Resurrection

According to the Quran

[Surah 70:4] Ascend the angels and the spirit to Him (to God) in a day which has a length of 50,000 years.

So here is a verse which says that a day at God is 50,000 years. Now there’s another verse in the Quran which says that a day is a thousand years. I know that but that refers to a day at your lord meaning that when we get resurrected on earth a day will be a thousand years. Basically a day when we get resurrected in the messianic age when Jesus will be the leader of the believers (The End Times). So that day will be a thousand years but here we’re talking about the day in the sky. Up there with God it’s 50,000 years and these people will be people who will be resurrected in the next world. So when they refer to a day they don’t know but God knows that it’s 50,000 years.

So here we have them saying that they did not remain dead except a day and then the verse tells us that a day is a length of 50,000 years. So basically we just replace this like whoever knows math knows when you know x you can replace it with the new value. So basically a day is 50,000 years that means that the people of Noah remained dead according to them for 50,000 years. So the behavior models the first generation of criminals meaning the people of Noah and a few people after them remained in the grave 50,000 lunar—by the way these are lunar years we can explain about that another day—50,000 lunar years until they get resurrected.

To know when they died, we first have to know when they will be resurrected. And 50,000 years before that is going to be when they died in this world. So when will the biggest criminals be resurrected? And this is there’s some nuances here. So as we know the end of the world is the year 2280. We know this. We have videos about this (The End of the World, Explaining Quranic Initials, Predicting the Future). We know that already. However, what I haven’t mentioned very specifically, I think it’s inferred in the video, The End Times, part of it is mentioned, but part of it is inferred is that there’s going to be a period of 40 years between when people die and between the when people start to get resurrected, between the first horn and the second horn. Meaning that imagine the world is going to be destroyed. Everyone will die in the year 2280. The Quran doesn’t mention these 40 years because it doesn’t make sense to mention them. The Quran counts the years according to the sun and the moon, but the sun and the moon will be destroyed. So, we’re just measuring what would have been years. I’m not saying that these are actual years. This is what would have been years. Like if someone was alive it would feel like 40 years. And during that time pretty much all people will be dead during these 40 years except for Jesus and someone else so that they can witness the resurrection of the people.

After these 40 years then there’s going to be a thousand years until the worst people get resurrected. In the video of the end times I explain how the best people get resurrected first starting from Adam. Of course Jesus was even before that but starting from Abraham (not Adam). Starting from Abraham, from the best people to the worst people and so as time passes those people go into the city of believers but the disbelievers will not be resurrected until the end of that period. The Quran says that’s when Gog and Magog will be returned. The Quran says it is prohibited for the bad people, the criminal communities of the past to be returned until Gog and Magog return. And Gog and Magog are the least bad people because they are similar to animals and animals are not that bad. Animals are between good and bad. So Gog and Magog are between good and bad. So when Gog and Magog get resurrected, that’s when others after them get resurrected which are worse people worse than them. The Quran says they are worse than animals. The bad people are worse than animals.

What this means is that the criminals from the time of Noah they will be resurrected definitely after this thousand-year period because they are the worst. And that would be the year. So, plus we add 40 years. We add 1,000 years and that would this would bring us to the year 3,320.

And this is a hypothetical year because the sun and the moon do not exist. So, really people will stop counting the years. We’re just talking about how long it will be. If we had a clock it would show or a clock with a calendar or you know how our phones had calendars (they will be destroyed). If they survived, it would count a thousand years plus 40 years from the time when the world gets destroyed until the bad people, the worst bad people get resurrected. So they will be resurrected in the year 3320.

So all we have to do is ask AI of course so we don’t calculate it ourselves. It’s easier. Ask AI how long from that year 50,000 lunar years ago?

So this is the question I asked AI. I said, “How many solar years before now is 50,000 lunar years before the solar year 3320?”

It’s kind of a long question, but AI is smart enough. It knows what I’m asking. And this is the answer. The answer which AI gave me. I did it myself as well. I calculated it myself and I got got the same answer. So this is what AI tells you. If you ask this question to AI, it’s going to give you this answer.

So the year is 47,217 years ago from now.

From now if we go in the past for about 40,000 years ago that’s when the worst people of the time of Noah died approximately. It’s a very nuanced thing to say that actually even before the flood came some of their fathers were bad and stuff like that. Anyway but it’s close time so approximately at this time not exactly necessarily, approximately.

Linguistic Analysis of Noah’s Lifespan in the Quran

So this is one method to figure out when Noah lived. Another method to figure out when Noah lived is to look more directly in the verses which talk about Noah. Verses which talk about Noah.

[Surah 29 Verse 14] Indeed we sent Noah to his people. So he remained …

again the same word same word and we learned from the previous verses that remained can refer to life but it more importantly it can refer to death as well or to the time spent in the grave.

[Surah 29 Verse 14] … So he remained with them a thousand (lunar) years, but fifty flows (or cycles)…

and this is the literal translation from the Quran

[Surah 29 Verse 14] … Then seizes them the deluge and they were the wrongdoers.

First of all, before I go into explaining the rest of it, let me explain this part. Why did I translate it like this? 50 flows instead of 50 years. Now, the thousand years which are given here, there’s a word in the Quran which means lunar year. I think it’s sina or something. Anyway, let’s go to this verse. Surah 29 verse 14. So he says, “And verily we sent Noah to his people and he remained again the same word as in the other verses he remained the same Arabic word I cannot pronounce it that’s why I’m not reading it but I can see it’s the same. And he remained among them a thousand years. Here’s a word which is used for year here, sanatin. So he remained with them a thousand years save and they translated it like this save but ila means but, except, more literally it means but. So he remained with them but fifty a’man. So it’s a different word now this is Sanatin but now it’s a’man. According to traditional scholars this word a’man means an easy years because it flows easy. This is the interpretation of that. What they don’t understand is that it wouldn’t make sense. Why would God use a sanat for a hard year and a’man for an easy year? And how do they know that these years were not actually easy as well? So they don’t have evidence that actually a’man means easy year and sanat means hard year. It makes no logical sense. Why would years be named differently?

What it means is that one of them is a lunar year, the other one is a solar year. And the reason why the people the Arabs misunderstood it, is because when they said a’man—their ancestors meant solar year—what they meant is the flow of time. Like let’s say in northern countries sometimes they will say a person lived fifty springs meaning fifty times there was a spring. And some old people will say that. I’ve heard I think my grandma like how many springs have you lived. Basically how many solar years; how many times the seasons have changed; how many times has the climate changed in your area. That’s how they kind of measured it. And now in Saudi Arabia, if the time changed from very hot into a little bit colder and more easy—because there it was generally hot if it became a little bit more easy, a little bit rain, and nice weather, they would count it as one a’man. Meaning one solar year because that was based on the the sun. Eventually that meant easy year, but originally it didn’t mean easy year, it originally meant solar year. Because it counted the flow of seasons. Let’s say from spring to spring or from winter to winter they don’t have spring there so it’s more from winter to winter.

So what this mean what this word here means solar year. However, there’s a deeper meaning to it. Anyone can search it online and just search etymology of the word a’man and you will see that it actually (literally) means flow or cycle. So the time flowing. So if we translate it literally, forget the context, forget what this Saudi scholars think about it. If we just forget about it and translate it literally, what the Quran actually says and trust the Quran. Because God wouldn’t use that word if he didn’t actually mean that. If we trust the Quran then we and we translate it literally, we would have to translate it:

• Ila means but
• Khamsina means 50.
• A’man means flow or cycle.

Now let’s translate it exactly in literal way in the exact way it was done in Arabic and see how we get a different meaning. It doesn’t mean that the previous meaning was wrong. It just means that we can get another meaning which is deeper than that.

So let’s see now what it’s telling us. And this is the literal translation.

[29:14] Indeed we sent Noah to his people. So he remained with them a thousand (lunar) years, but fifty flows (or cycles)…

Meaning fifty flows of a thousand lunar years and that’s why this verse is expressed weirdly like this because God could have said that Noah lived 950 years which is true however he didn’t say it like that. God said he lived with them a thousand lunar years but fifty flows. Fifty which we can understand today as cycles because we know that those flows are cycles.

[29:14] … Then seizes them the deluge and they were the wrongdoers

So fifty flows or cycles of a thousand lunar years, I hope you understand the way I’m understanding it. So he remained with them a thousand lunar years but we’re talking about fifty flows of those thousand lunar years. So fifty flows of a thousand lunar years is 50,000 lunar years. So from the year when Noah was born until Noah gets resurrected, there are fifty thousand lunar years.

Now by the way, now here I’m including also Noah’s life. Why? Because above here it says how long you have remained. But here it says how long Noah remained with them. The word here is with them. So Noah remained with them. What does this mean? This includes his life as well because Noah first was with his people when he was alive. Then when he died according to the Quran the believers go straight to heaven. His sons also went to heaven. So he remained with his people even after he died and until the end of the thousand years there. So this means that we’re counting both Noah’s life and death. So this means that from the year when Noah was born until Noah gets resurrected including his life after let’s say his earthly life in the next world when the basically one thousand years more, there are 50,000 lunar years.

So Noah will be resurrected around the year 2320. How I explained this already which is here in the plus 40 years. So the end of the world will come in the year 2280. We add 40 years to that. Here we don’t add a thousand another thousand years necessarily. However, we had to add them because it says how how long he remained with them with his people. It says his people and his people also includes his sons. Those are his people. So and his sons are in the next world will be in within those 10,000 years because they were believers. They believed with Noah. They got saved with Noah. So 50 50 so from the year when Noah was born until Noah gets resurrected there are 50,000 lunar years Noah will be resurrected around the year 2320 which is 40 years after after 2280 plus still stay among his believing people meaning his sons and whatever the people who believed with him for 1,000 years which makes it the year 3320. So again we came back to that same year in a different way from different verses.

And now all we have to do ask AI, “How many solar years before now is 50,000 lunar years before the solar year 3320.”

It looks like a long question but AI understands.

So Noah and the answer is the year is 47,217 solar years (because we asked about solar years) before now. So Noah was born about 47,000 years before now. And this is the answer.

And then the flood according to the Bible came when Noah was 600 lunar years old years years old. That’s in the Bible. That means that the flood came around 46,635 solar years before now. So about 46,000 years give or take approximately.

By the way, why approximately? And I hope it’s not going to be a long explanation. I’m saying approximately even though we found the exact year, because what the Quran does when the Quran mentions let’s say numbers of things, it always mentions whole numbers. So basically if there’s 12 months in a year in a solar year God is going to just say 12 but it could be 12.5 or 12.2 the Quran never mentions that point thing like a little bit more because God only counts the whole things. The Quran says that God perfected everything. God made complete literally we can in Arabic it means God made complete everything which means that if it’s not complete God is not going to count it. God never says in the Quran four and a half months. If it’s four and a half months, God is just going to say four months. He doesn’t count those. If God wants to be more accurate, he’s going to tell us in days. He’s going to say, let’s say, I don’t know how much is 4 and a half months, 135 days, let’s say. So if God wants to tell us that exact period and he wants to be that exact, he’s going to tell us 135 days. But he’s not going to say four and a half months. Never in the Quran you find half a month or half a year, never. The reason is that God counts only the complete things. Whatever is extra is not counted. Which means that when God says here 50 flows of a thousand years, it could have been 50.1 flows. It could have been 50.7 flows. It could have been 50.9 flows. And that’s a range of a thousand years. About a thousand years. So from 50 up up to 51, that’s about and all of those would have been counted 50 according to the way God counts things in the Quran. If you wanted to make it more exact, he could. But he said 50 flows of a thousand years, which means from 50,000 years up to 51,000 years. All of that is within that meaning. So that’s why I’m saying it approximately at this time because it could have been this time or up to a thousand years later or earlier whichever I don’t know. I think it’s earlier which whichever makes sense. You guys can figure it out.

Scientific Confirmation: Dansgaard-Oeschger (DO) Cycles

Now is there scientific evidence that flood came around the year around this year around 46,000 or 47,000 years ago? And we can find that evidence in science. There’s this thing called Dansgaard-Oeschger or it’s easier to say DO. Usually scientists will use the the acronym DO cycles. What are they? They are abrupt rapid climate fluctuations that occur 25 times during the last glacier period. First discovered in Greenland ice cores. That’s why they are also known as as GI think Greenland interstadials because that’s where they were discovered. So they are also known as the GI cycles. But here we’re just using this DO cycles. So they were discovered in Greenland ice cores by these two guys. That’s how they got the name from their last names. And they feature a sudden spike in temperatures rising from about 5 degrees Celsius to 16 degrees Celsius in mere decade. So within let’s say a decade or two or three let’s say about 50,000 years whatever it doesn’t matter but it’s very short when it comes to climate changes followed by a gradual cooling over centuries. These cycles are among the most dramatic climate shifts in Earth’s history, highlighting how unstable the climate can be during ice ages.

Now, these cycles, as we can see, there’s 25 of those. And the one which is the DO12, the 12th in a row, DO12 started around 46 according to scientists. And by the way, this is approximate because they say that it could be about 500 years later or 500 years earlier like approximately at that time. But it’s quite accurate. It’s quite accurate within a within 500 years. So DO12 started around 46,900 years. Again, as you can see, it matches this this time year time period here. This is accurate down to a thousand years. This is accurate down to about 500 years. So DO12 started around 46,900 years ago (44,900 BC) and that’s kind of the start and it ended around 44,400 years ago (42,400 BC).

Now what do these DO cycles do? What is a DO cycle?

A DO cycle is basically the sudden heating it looks like they still don’t have an exact explanation. It was a sudden heating of the north here which is close to Greenland basically north of Norway. If you guys can see the world map here it’s the sudden heating and that comes usually from the Atlantic. Like the there’s some change in the flow of the Atlantic Ocean and there’s there’s sudden heating up to 12 degrees within a decade or so or a few decades. And that’s a big change. That’s bigger than what we see today. They make a big deal about the climate change. What they’re talking about is only one degree. Here, 12 degrees changed within about 50 years.

Now, what does that do for the rest of the earth? What that does for the rest of the earth, we have the map, the other map here, is if you look here at the south of Iraq, which is here, south of Iraq, and you can ask AI, by the way, ask AI, How does DO12 change the rain in the south of Iraq? I mean how does the DO12 the climate cycle the DO12 how did it change the the things in the south of Iraq it will tell you that it increased the rain and these blue regions are where the rain increased so it increased in Africa and south of Iraq in other places it made it more dry but here in south of Iraq which is where Noah and and Adam lived God willing I’ll deal with it another day so in that region south of Iraq it increased the rain flow.

The Heinrich Event Mechanics

Now what’s interesting is that yeah the rain the rain there were there was more rain even in Africa and even part of let’s say Asia here. However, why was there no flood there? The key difference here is that in that period of time south of Iraq was a desert meaning like very dry and everyone knows when it’s very dry like when the land is very dry not not everyone but like most people know that when the land is very dry it kind of becomes like cement and that’s when if the rain is sudden during that time there’s a flood like it happens even today there’s floods if you have a very dry region and there is a and there’s sudden rain, it’s going to cause a flood because why? Because the earth becomes so dry, it becomes like a cement and the the water doesn’t go inside like it the earth doesn’t suck the water. It’s just kind of it stays on top of the earth.

How do we know it was dry? Because this DO cycle came exactly or very soon after what’s called a Heinrich Heinrich event. What is a Heinrich event?

You guys can research this stuff. You don’t have to because I’m telling you, but you can. A Heinrich event is again one of those cycles which causes actually dry land in south of Iraq. It causes cooling in most of the earth but it also causes dry land in south of Iraq. What we have here this red graph is the DO cycle which measures the warming by the way this is the last 10,000 years you can see humans have kind of changed stuff but anyway so here we have a graph which is from zero up down to 60,000 years ago and here around 46,000 years ago we have DO cycle 12. If you guys can see it’s number 12. But also at this just at this time just before this the H5 Heinrich event happens so basically this is the closest they get. So these gray areas are Heinrich events. The gray areas are Heinrich events. The red graph is the DO cycles numbered. All of them are numbered.

And what we can see is that let’s say Heinrich event 6 and then DO cycle 17 are not as close. Heinrich event 5A and DO cycle 14 are not as close to one another. However, when it comes to Heinrich event 5 and DO cycle 12 are very close to one another. Basically, at the end of one, the other starts, which means that when it’s really dry in Iraq, that’s when a lot of rain happened at this time in human history. And that’s perfect conditions for a flood. Basically, if you have those conditions, that’s going to cause a flood in that area.

Now some sort of not as strong but similar floods might have happened later. We can see Heinrich events later but they are not as close to the DO cycles and people were more prepared and actually the I can show you another day why Iraq had changed by then it became like because the southern part of Iraq was actually not a sea in the past like this what they call the Persian Gulf it at that time it was actually not a sea it was land. So, but that’s another day another discussion when I explain about where where did Adam and Noah live. But here all I’m trying to say is that these are perfect conditions for a flood because it was a really dry cycle. Immediately after it rain came and this is let’s say scientifically we have strong evidence that very likely there was a flood in south of Iraq about 46,000 years ago which is about the time when Noah the Quran tells us that Noah lived. That’s it. And does anyone have any question quickly though because I spent too much time.

Q&A: Clarification on the Timeline Base Year

Oh, so Guillaume is asking, “Before now is before 2026 or before Jesus?

No, before now is before 2026. That’s how I wanted the AI to tell me the years. Typically they in science they will say when they say before now they mean before the year 2000 in when they measure these cycles. So they measure them from the year 2000 which is 26 years ago. Some scientists will measure it from 1950. It doesn’t matter a lot but they usually don’t measure it from the time of Jesus. If they measure it from the time of Jesus, they will represent it as before Christ BC. But here we we’re not talking with any BC numbers. None of these are in BC.

So see age here it says in this graph it says age ka means thousand years before present not before Christ before present meaning before 2000 or before 1950. So yeah, that introduces about 26 years of difference between what I found and what they found. So we’re talking about only 26 years difference, but not before Jesus. Everything I spoke here is not before Jesus. We’re talking before now or before the year 2000. I used it myself before the year 2026 because I wanted you guys to think really from your perspective. But usually scientists will say before 2000. One more question. So yeah, it’s important actually to distinguish that because when you do research, if you do research with AI and stuff like that, it might tell you a year and then that’s going to confuse you if you don’t know if you’re talking BC or BP. BP is before present.

Faisal is saying, “Very insightful. Thank you.”

So we know when Noah lived, which is around 47,000 solar years before now. That means let’s add about a thousand years because we already knew from the Bible that Adam lived about a thousand years before that.

Final Timeline Conclusion: Dating the Creation of Adam

So let’s make let’s say the final conclusion. So let’s add another conclusion here.

So Adam was created around 48,217 years about 1,000 years more so about 48,000 years ago from now (solar years) Adam was created.

Now if anyone finds paintings before that it’s because they haven’t done the study accurately. And scientists sometimes will compete to find the oldest painting. Or it probably might not be a painting. It might be just a hand sign or a or a line or something. But if we are going to use reliable scientists which unfortunately typically are western scientists you cannot find any painting which is older than that—human made painting; realistic painting or a statue.

For those who have to do the contact prayer, do the contact prayer and the rest of you peace be upon you.

Friday Sermon by: Alban Fejza, Online Congregation Director

Introduction: An Interconnected Historical Puzzle

Praise be to God. There is no other God.

What I want to talk about today is: when did Adam live? It’s kind of a heavy topic. To answer this question, it really connects with many other topics. To answer it, we also have to answer:

• When did Noah live?
• Where did Adam live?
• And where did Noah live?

They are all connected. I’m going to give an almost complete answer—almost complete, but not fully there—because to do all of those would probably take four Friday sermons. God willing, I’ll answer the others at other times, very likely in the following Friday sermons. But I think it’s still good enough to learn a lot just by tackling this issue alone.

The Clash Between Science and Direct Biblical Chronology

First of all there is a dispute between scientists and usually Christians. Muslims don’t go too much into this, but even Muslims will sort of lean towards the Christian perspective about when did Adam lived. Of course, scientists don’t believe in Adam at all. They say that humans—what they call the “Out of Africa” theory—evolved in Africa and then eventually, about 50,000 to 60,000 years ago, moved out of Africa to other continents as well. This is what they call “Out of Africa” theory.

Then we have on the other side the Christians who, if they are honest with their Bible, believe that Adam was created about 6,000 years ago—about 4004 BC or something like that. That is also hard to believe, even though according to the Bible they can conclude that. Cities existed before that. Before that time, there were cities in today’s Iraq, in Sumeria.

There is a place called Göbekli Tepe; that’s a location where people gathered. Let me show it, I hope it shows. It is in Turkey. This is an ancient site where people gathered for whatever dances or worship they did. It’s a weird place, but it existed 10,000 years ago.

And by the way, these are accurate. Here’s the thing: the scientific story is one thing, but scientific data we cannot dispute. It’s a fact. This place exists. It’s in the southeast of Turkey. They did their scientific methods, which is usually called radiocarbon dating, and they found that it’s about 10,000 years ago—or 11,000, or whatever it says here. Yeah, 9,500 BC. So that’s at least 11,000 years ago, if not 12, depending on where you start to count it.

It exists. It’s there. Now, what story scientists will tell or the story religious people will tell around this, that’s a different thing. But it’s a fact. Therefore, we cannot deny this fact. It’s a fact that there were human settlements, there were people before 4000 BC.

Therefore, there should be something wrong with the Bible, or the part of the Bible which talks about this.

How the Biblical Timeline Was Calculated

To tell you what’s wrong about this—because Christians generally don’t know where it went wrong, and Jews don’t know where it went wrong, and as a result, Muslims also don’t know where it went wrong—for the first time, I want to pinpoint where it went wrong.

The way the Christians calculated when Adam lived is they pretty much relied on two chapters of the Bible:

1. Chapter 11, which gives a genealogy of who gave birth to whom.

2. Chapter 5, which goes from Adam to Noah.

They combine those two chapters together and try to figure out when Adam lived. Here’s how they do it:

They start from something which they know for sure. What do they know for sure? They know for sure when Jesus lived. But Jews don’t really like to start from Jesus because they hate him. So they might start from Daniel. Daniel lived during the time of Cyrus the Great. Historians know when Cyrus the Great lived. They see that Daniel and Cyrus the Great lived at the same time according to the Bible.

So they are like, “Okay, if Cyrus the Great lived at this time, Daniel must have been alive at that time.” Then they just check who was the father of Daniel, and how old he was when he gave birth to Daniel—was he 20 years, was he 50 years?—and so on.

They go backwards until they reach what they think is Adam, which turns out to be about 4,000 years ago BC. It’s ridiculous, but that’s what they conclude. It started with the Jews, the Christians copied it, and then some Muslims—not all, but some—also took that idea. It’s totally ridiculous. I just showed you stones which existed before that, made by humans.

Identifying the Flaw: Genesis Chapter 11

Where did it go wrong?

First of all, I want to introduce what’s called the Documentary Theory about Genesis. Most scholars who study this seriously—not religious people—have concluded that Genesis is just a bunch of documents put together. Different people wrote different documents at different times, and they were put together as chapters. Someone wrote one document, someone else wrote another, they existed in different part in historical and geographical contexts, and eventually someone put them together and created what we call Genesis today.

You can see this because:

• The name of God is mentioned differently.
• The styles are different.
• It’s not like the Quran, which is one unique, complete, consistent source.
• The stories restart many times.

Different people wrote this, and Chapter 11 is one of the most problematic ones because it’s easy to tell that it’s fake. I wouldn’t say fully fake, but a scribe tried to get it right and faked a lot of stuff. Some stuff might be true, but it’s pretty much a fake chapter. It’s not inspired; it’s not by a messenger; it’s just a fake chapter.

Comparing Chapter 5 and Chapter 11

How do we know? Chapter 11 is the chapter which connects the time of Abraham with the time of Noah.

In Chapter 5, we have all the years. Let’s go to Genesis 5. Here we have all the years: Adam lived 130 years, he fathered a son just like him, and then how long Adam lived.

How do we know this chapter is correct? Because it matches with the Quran. It says Noah lived 950 years, which is what the Quran says. There’s no big reason to believe this is not correct, because it matches with the Quran.

Now, Chapter 11 doesn’t match with the Quran at all. It contradicts it by a lot.

So from Adam up to Noah, we have the correct description of how people came to be. Then in Chapter 11, whoever wrote this chapter tried to fake it.

In Chapter 10, another author describes the people who lived after Noah, but he describes them as people. Even this guy—at least he got it right. I don’t think this is an inspired chapter from God either, but at least he got it right because his logic was: “Given that all people come from Noah, let’s look at the nations.”

He looked at who exists:

• The people of Sheba in today’s Yemen.
• People up north called Magog.
• A guy called Ashkenaz, where the Ashkenazi Jews get their name.

He logically went backwards and imagined these were names of people—which very likely they were, because even Israel gets its name from their father. Israel was a person, and all the people who came after him were his descendants—called Israel. So it’s kind of logical, but he doesn’t give any years.

See, Cush and Egypt are included. He’s actually giving nations. Eventually, that group of people became a nation. It’s totally logical. I can see how that’s right. He might have gotten something wrong. So we have names of countries here. I can see how this is very likely true, even though it’s not inspired by God.

The Chronological Absurdity of Chapter 11

Now, in the next chapter, Chapter 11, the author tries to do the same thing. He actually uses those names (from Chapter 10) of people from Noah to Abraham from the previous chapter, but he actually tries to add years to them.

Here’s what he says:

Shem lived 100 years and fathered Arpachshad two years after the flood; Shem lived 500 years and had other sons; when Arpachshad lived 35 years, he fathered Cainan.

He’s taking names that were nations in Chapter 10—which means a lot of time must have passed before we get these nations. There is a big distance from Noah all the way to Abraham. We have nations by then. But here this guy imagines that those are just people and forgets that they were nations. Then he tries to imagine how many years they lived with fake numbers, telling us how long they lived and how old they were when they had children. This is totally fake.

How do we know this is fake? First of all, it contradicts itself and the rest of the Bible. And by the way, Jewish and Christian scholars know this, they just don’t make a big deal out of it. If you add all the years from Noah all the way to Abraham (when Terah lived and fathered Abram), you know what happens? Abraham was born when Noah was still alive according to this.

If Abraham was born while Noah was still alive when he left his homeland to go to the chosen land, why didn’t he take Noah with him? Did Noah not agree with him? Was Noah not already a chosen prophet and messenger towards the end of his life? Why would Noah not go with him, or why would Abraham go against the community where Noah was the leader?

The Quran tells us that Abraham told his people not to worship idols, that they were wrong, and he left them. They tried to put him in the fire to kill him. But according to the Bible, Noah was the leader of that community because he was still alive. In those times, people respected their parents. So according to this, Noah would have been the leader of that idol-worshipping community, which would make Noah a bad person. That makes no sense. Both the Bible and the Quran tell us that Noah was a good person.

Historical Textual Manipulation

Scholars know that these don’t match. So what the Jews did secretly—that’s why there are two versions of the Bible—is they changed it. To remove that contradiction (they didn’t fix it at all, they were just trying to remove the contradiction), they added 100 years to all of these. That’s why today we have two versions:

• The Septuagint version
• The (Jewish version) Masoretic text

In that one, they added 100 years to all of them because they noticed the contradiction, just so that Abraham could live after Noah, not during Noah.

This shows that they manipulated it, which shows that even this could have been manipulated in the beginning. So this is totally fake, first of all. It’s taking some ideas from the previous chapter where it talks about nations, tries to imagine them as people, and then adds years thinking that it has to do what Genesis 5 does, which gives years all the way to Noah, but not later.

From Adam to Noah, Genesis does give us the years. But there are no correct years in the Bible from Noah to Abraham. These years we can see are fake because according to these years, Abraham and Noah lived at the same time, and it’s totally not possible. Because the Quran tells us Abraham lived in an idol-worshipping community. He preached to them, they rejected him, and they wanted to burn him. Lot left with him. In the meantime, what was Noah doing if he was alive? By the way, all of this Abraham did when he was young, which means Noah was still alive according to this, which is not correct.

Quranic Clarification on Abraham’s Father

Just to drive the point home, I think God mentioned in the Quran intentionally the name of the father of Abraham. Other than that, I don’t see a reason why we would have the name of the father of Abraham, just so that we know that this chapter is fake.

If we go to the Quran in Surah 6, Verse 74, it says:

“Recall that Abraham said to his father, Azar, ‘How could you worship statues as gods? I see that you and your people have gone far astray.'”

According to the Quran, the father of Abraham is a bad person and his name is Azar. Why would God tell us the name? God doesn’t tell us the name of the fathers of other messengers. God tells us the name because God knows that Jews have changed stuff.

Let me give you an example: God knew that Christians will call Jesus the Son of God. What does God say in the Quran? It almost always makes sure to say, “Jesus, the son of Mary.” Why does God say that? He doesn’t need to say that; He could have said just “Jesus.” But He repeats it and emphasizes the correct version so that we don’t fall prey or make the mistake of following the Bible in that issue. It’s sort of a correction of the Bible. If the Bible is correct, the Quran doesn’t necessarily have to correct it. But if it’s something wrong, the Quran makes sure to correct it.

That’s why we see the name of the father of Abraham, Azar, here. When you go to the fake chapter of Genesis here, you see that the father of Abraham is Terah. It’s a totally different name. It doesn’t have any connection linguistically; it doesn’t have the same meaning in the Jewish version versus the Arabic version. If you translate them, it still doesn’t make sense; they have different meanings. So it’s totally a fake name. This shows that this chapter is fake.

Once you exclude this chapter from the attempt to find out when Adam lived, then you are free to be objective and really find out when Adam lived. This is what’s wrong with why the Jews got it wrong about when Adam lived, along with a lot of Christians and some Muslims.

By the way, according to this, Terah is a good guy—Terah took Abraham to migrate and all of that. According to the Quran, we know that Abraham’s father is a bad guy. Even some Muslims were so duped by this that they thought, “Oh, maybe Azar is the uncle of Abraham,” because they couldn’t understand why the name is different. They said maybe Azar is the uncle, because sometimes people use the word “father” for uncle in today’s Arabic. But not in Quranic Arabic! The Quran is very clear: every time it uses the word “father” in the Quran, it’s always the father, never the uncle. Why would it be the uncle when it says father? God doesn’t switch words.

What I’m saying is, first of all, we should forget about this chapter—and this doesn’t mean that other chapters are wrong—we should forget about this chapter. What we are left with is to see what the scientists say: can we use scientific facts to find out when Adam lived? But before we go there, let’s repent. Toubou ila Allah.

The Scientific Narrative and Genetic Mixing

Praise be to God. There is no other god except God.

Okay. So, what about the scientific version?

Scientists do have the data and the facts correct. However, their story is not fully correct. I just want to say what the position of the scientists of today generally is—and when I say scientists, I mean people of this field, whoever studies evolution. According to them, people came out of Africa and then they went into other continents and evolved—like even in Africa, they evolved anyway.

The problem with this is that even before they knew there were problems with this—some of the guys already know, probably like 10 or 15 years ago I said that people are mixed with what I call sort of animal-like hominids or human-shaped animals, what today they call Neanderthals and Denisovans and some other ones. Before they had discovered this, I told the submitters back in Kosovo when I was preaching there that people have animal genes in them (before scientists discovered that). Then, within five or 10 years, they discovered it.

What they discovered is that the story which they believed is not fully correct, because humans had mixed:

• in Europe, they had mixed mostly with Neanderthals;
• in Asia, humans had mixed mostly with Denisovans.

Basically, they found genes of Neanderthals in Europeans, and they found genes of Denisovans in some very East Asian people. But the scientists still stuck to their story.

The “Ghost DNA” Contradiction

I thought, “Wait a minute, why do they stick to their story?” Because they still hadn’t found that even in Africa they are mixed with whatever animal was there—well, human-shaped animal—and recently they have actually found it. However, they still don’t admit it.

Here is their version of the story: according to them, people moved out of Africa and went to Europe and Asia (of course, some of them stayed in Africa), and there they got mixed with Neanderthals and Denisovans, with about 1 to 4% of animal genes. I’m calling them animals—whatever they are, like the Quran calls them later Gog and Magog once they are mixed.

So they got mixed, and their prediction came wrong. They predicted that if this story is correct, then we should not find animal genes in Africans, because Neanderthals only lived in Europe and Asia. So when people moved there and mixed with them, that means Africans didn’t get the chance to mix with them. They predicted that Africans shouldn’t have animal genes.

But recently, very recently, they found that even Africans have animal genes—not Neanderthal genes, not Denisovan genes, but some other sort of human-shaped animal. They haven’t informed the public yet, but they call it “ghost DNA.”

Scientists can be tricky: whenever they don’t understand something, they call it ghost, dark, hidden, stuff like that. They do the same thing in physics. Let me say, if they don’t understand why the universe is expanding faster than they expected, they call it dark energy. It’s just a made-up thing; it doesn’t exist. They just decided to call it like that, because they don’t understand. Basically, their model doesn’t fit with the data they found out. So they will invent a third thing to sort of make sense, but that third thing doesn’t even exist; it’s just a hidden variable. So they call it now ghost DNA, meaning: “Oh, wait a minute, there are genes—animal genes, human-shaped hominin genes—in Africans as well, but we’re just going to call it ghost DNA because we still don’t know what it is.”

Even before what they thought were monkeys—which they think we are descendants of—when people moved out of the Middle East, when Adam’s sons moved out of the Middle East and went to Africa, they mixed with that human-shaped animal a little bit. It’s not a lot; in all cases, it’s not a lot. We’re mostly human. We’re actually fully human, but we have some animal genes.

In my case, for example, this (arm) hair is unnecessary—it’s just for animals, but anyway, I have it. I got it from Neanderthals, I guess.

People get different diseases from that. Some people have diabetes, some people are not as smart, some people are not as pretty. We got all of these mostly from those animal genes. If it’s visible, actually, you’re more lucky, because if it’s not visible, you probably have it somewhere else—in some kind of immune deficiency or whatever it could be. It’s even more dangerous inside your body.

Reinterpreting the Data: Middle Eastern Origin

Back to the topic: the only story which makes sense with the data which the scientists are providing is that humans started in the Middle East. During that time, there were human-shaped animals in Africa, in Europe, and in Asia. As humans spread, they mixed with those, and that’s it.

However, the data also fits their story as long as they sort of call part of it ghost genes and don’t explain it. According to the data which the scientists have provided, for scientists and us, we can fit both stories into the data. Their story, though, doesn’t fully fit; there’s a part which they call the ghost part. Our story fits more. However, they don’t want to change their mind. I’m quite sure they will change it because there’s no other explanation.

Anyway, what I want to say is that the way I knew about this partly is through the Bible. The scientists cannot even say, “By the way, we found out that Neanderthals have mixed a little bit with humans, and that’s not in the Bible.” Actually, that’s in the Bible!

Biblical Narrative & Lifespan Shortening

If we go to Genesis 6 it says:

“And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the ground and daughters were born unto them, that the sons of God…”

And this is what they called the Neanderthals, and then later on they called Nephilim. Look at the name here: Nephilim are kind of called the sons of God because people didn’t understand what they were.

Imagine: we are sons of Adam, we are people, we’re living it, we’re kind of spreading through the earth, and we meet these new guys—we don’t even know where they come from. They cannot speak to us; they have basic language like dogs, or more like monkeys. They look almost exactly like humans, like stronger bones and stronger muscles, and you can see why the daughters of men would be attracted to them.

So the mixing happened both ways. One way is the daughters of men slept with them—not all of them—but that was enough to put the genes in the whole human society, because then the children would get married with someone else and stuff like that.

So what I’m saying is, here it’s explaining that the women, the daughters of Adam, got mixed. But the other side also happened, which is us. This kind of led to Gog and Magog— what the Quran calls later Gog and Magog.

I’m going to continue to read here:

“…that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all that they chose. And Jehovah (God) said: ‘My spirit shall not strive with man forever, for that he also is flesh; yet shall his days be 120 years.'”

Look, now God is even explaining why the life was shortened. Noah lived 950 years; now God is saying from now on your lifespan will be 120 years—much shorter. Why? Because they got animal genes, and those animals lived 20 or 30 years—like Neanderthals live 30 years. So you get those genes.

By the way, they got benefits from it. They got so much protection from certain things. I think white people use vitamin D a little bit better when they go to the sun; they probably got it from Neanderthals. So they got benefits from it. However, all those benefits came at the cost of shortening the life. Meaning that okay, now you have different genes, a better immune system, like you can get protected from mosquitoes and from that, which children of Adam didn’t have before because Adam was created in a perfect place where he didn’t need that. God says that He created Adam in the perfect form; he didn’t need protection from all of these very earthly things. But they got that protection by mixing a little bit with these animals. So it was a good thing in some ways, but it came at a cost: life became much shorter because when you have an immune system, it’s going to spend energy to protect you. So it’s going to shorten your life, protecting you now at the expense of shortening it later.

Then it says:

“The Nephilim were in the earth in those days…”

Nephilim in Hebrew means giants or strong people.

“…Nephilim were in the earth in those days and also after that, when the sons of God…”

meaning whatever creatures they couldn’t understand which looked like humans,

“…came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.”

And:

“…Jehovah saw the wickedness of men.”

Basically what happened: some females got attracted to the animalistic male behavior of those creatures and they had children. And those later became Gog and Magog. Even these can be called Gog and Magog. They become Gog and Magog in Europe and Asia, but like in in Africa, they don’t have a name. It’s something else.

The opposite also happened. The sons of man, meaning men, children of Adam, got mixed with some of them. Very small portion, probably like one in a thousand, one in a 100, whoever did it (the bad boys). It happened a little for slightly different reasons because the men were not really as strong. So I don’t think the females were as attracted to them, or they (sons of men) were not as attracted to the females of Neanderthals. Because they were not as good-looking. What happened there is they usually would take them for slaves and something would happen. So basically they would be like “Oh, here’s a woman I can kind of force her to wash my clothes, if they had clothes”. But eventually they might have had children so the reason was slightly different and we are the descendants of those people. So the mixing happened both ways.

Evaluating Science and Biblical History

Now, why am I bringing this up? Because as you can see, the Bible also tells us what scientists found much later.

Now, back to finding when Adam lived: what I’m saying is scientists cannot complain that the Bible got it wrong. Chapter 11 got it wrong by the way, that’s fair. But to say that the Bible got it wrong because we now discovered that they are mixed. Well, the Bible already knew this. We can already find it in the Bible. But also, religious people don’t have a very good argument to say that those facts are not true, because it’s a fact that people existed before that anyway.

Why weren’t they able to find when Adam lived until recently, until I found out? I’ve told a lot of you many times before, but today I’m making it the main topic.

Why can’t the scientists find out?

Because they are looking at the wrong data, the wrong evidence. When scientists try to figure out when was the first human, what they look for is bones. As we can see, bones can be misleading because people got mixed with animals.

In the early times, you can find a bone which is 30% hominin or 30% Neanderthal and 70% human. That’s going to look like, “Oh, there’s evolution!” No, there’s a mixing.

So the bones can be misleading, even though there is a clear distinction between Humans and Neanderthals and Denisovans. There are lots of similarities as well, so they will use that to still stick to their story. Eventually, I believe scientists will come to agree with this gradually—they are stubborn.

They are looking in the wrong evidence. They are looking for bones, and they are looking for tools usually: “Oh, did they use stone tools? Did they use knives?” They look for those things to distinguish when the first modern human evolve. Because they are looking at the wrong data, they will not be able to find it like that.

Now let me tell you what they should look for. First, they have to analyze what is the difference between Adam, or humans, and those human-shaped animals. I want to be more nice to Neanderthals because they are not really fully animals. They are kind of like human-shaped; they have a lot of human emotions. I think the name is hominin, meaning human-shaped. I like to use the word humanoid, but then they use it for robots in Japan and China. Is someone suggesting any name?

Bigfoot. No its not Bigfoot, Faisal. Bigfoot is another thing. And we don’t know if they have big feet. It doesn’t exist, by the way. You need a certain amount of population to have a Bigfoot; Bigfoot is a mythical creature which is supposed to exist in California or West America.

Homo Sapiens. Homo Sapiens includes humans as well as previous creatures, so it’s a very general term. I think they call them hominin, meaning human-like, creatures which look like humans, because Homo sapiens means smart humans, I think, and we’re not automatically agreeing that they are smart anyway. So I’m just going to stick to human-shaped animals. Sorry for being not nice to Neanderthals—part of that is us. I’m just going to call them human-shaped animals until we find a better name. They do deserve a better name, though, because I don’t think they are actually fully animals anyway.

It’s really hard to tell from the bones. Yeah, you can tell the differences, but there was mixing as well. So the scientists will say, “Oh, there was evolution,” because we can see some cases in between. While according to the Bible, we can tell them, “No, there was just mixing.”

Both stories fit the data. You can believe this and the data will fit, and you can believe the other story and the data will still fit. So you cannot tell the difference of what really happened if you look at the bones.

The Fundamental Difference: Language and Realistic Art

To understand that, we have first to understand what is the fundamental difference between Adam and those human-shaped animals, which are Neanderthals and Denisovans.

The basic difference, according to the Quran, is naming things. The Quran says God created Adam and He taught him how to name things. So Adam came up with names of things: “This is a tree, that’s a river, that’s a mountain, that’s the sky.” Adam came up with these. Neanderthals couldn’t name things; even angels couldn’t name things. Almost all of us know the story where God tells the angels to tell the names, and they don’t know the names. God says, “Okay, so Adam knows the names,” and animals don’t know the names (Quran 2:31-33).

The basic difference is language, but I’m talking about names. Can a dog name the eye? Could a Neanderthal say “I”? No. That’s the basic difference: Adam and the children of Adam, including us, can name things. We can give names to things; we can create an expression, a symbol, a sign which represents something else, a category of things. That’s naming.

The ability to name things is fundamentally the same thing as art. I’m talking about realistic art, not abstract art. Even a monkey can do abstract art—express anger, express emotions, express brighter colors, darker colors—that’s different. I’m talking about realistic art where you draw a human being, you draw a tree, you draw a car. You can never do that unless you name it.

Even with AI today, AI never knew how to draw new things until first they taught it how to speak, meaning the language model. After that, automatically we got those software which can create pictures and photos. That’s just an imitation, but that’s for another day.

The Theory of Forms

What I’m saying is it’s connected, because you cannot imagine the concept of “pens” unless you have the word “pen.” Once you think of all the pens of the world and you know what distinguishes a pen from a non-pen, and once you realize what it is that makes a pen a pen, that’s when you actually have the ability to name it. But also, because you know enough about it, you also have the ability to draw it and paint it.

The basic difference between Adam and the human-shaped animals is that the children of Adam can communicate names of things. And art is an expression of that. Because, if humans had tools, that tool could have been used because it just felt good. Neanderthals probably used stones to skin animals—they removed the skin from the animal, they used the stone. Neanderthals could do that. But could he draw a cat? He never could, because he was a human-shaped animal; he was not a child of Adam.

Only the children of Adam can name things, and as a result, only the children of Adam can make art—realistic art: like drawing a human being, drawing a cow, drawing a sheep. Only humans can do that. Angels wouldn’t want to do that—God created them for real—and animals don’t know how to. The only creatures which does it, are the children of Adam.

The conclusion is that to know when Adam was created and when Adam lived, all we have to do is look at until when did we have art. So that’s what I did. I asked AI to do it for me because it’s easier. To answer that question, we have to look at art. This will definitely answer the question: not looking at bones, not looking at tools—we have to look at art. When did we have art? When did Adam live?

Cave Painting Evidence Across Eras

I asked this question to AI:

“Going back to the past, during every 5,000 years, give me the two most reliable dated examples of cave paintings. Once you cannot find examples further into the past, stop. Give me a full list chronologically from the most recent ones to the most ancient ones. Do not include the ones which only have hand stencils.”

By the way, hand stencils are these. The reason why I excluded these as examples of art is because even Neanderthals potentially could have done this. All the way these were done is they had something in their mouth—probably it started with blood, but this is with paint—and they put their hand on the wall and blew into it. That’s how that was done. That’s kind of easy, and probably a monkey can do it.

Example of hand stencil “painting”

They might have learned it with blood, because in the past those creatures used to drink blood. Let’s say they had a mouthful of blood while eating, they put their hand on the wall, they sneezed, and they saw the wall: “Oh, that’s interesting, there’s a shape of a hand there.” So they kept doing it.

These are very likely human hands; however, what I’m saying is even Neanderthals can potentially do them very likely. So let’s exclude them; we don’t want to rely on things which are not reliable. So I told AI:

“Do not include the ones which only have hand stencils or abstract line figures…”

Because even a Neanderthal might have done some lines by accident, or he could have done an X by accident if he was angry and just scratched the wall.

“…so do not include hand stencils or abstract lines—only realistic pictures. Do not include the same examples twice if their date ranges overlap through many 5,000-year periods, unless there’s no other example.”

This is what I asked AI, and this is what AI gave me as an answer: a list of cave paintings—the list was produced by AI, but the cave paintings were produced by humans—which we definitely know must be by humans. They cannot be done by human-shaped animals; only humans can do these.

• 0 to 5,000 years ago: We have an example here in Somaliland of what looks like cows. Definitely human-made. A monkey cannot do this; only a human can do this. Why cave paintings? Because those were protected. People did these outside of caves too, but the rain would wash them away. In the caves, they were more protected.

• 5,000 to 10,000 years ago: We have this in Argentina: a human, a tree, what looks like the sun, some other humans, and these look like llamas or ostriches. Then in Peru, we have some other animals from 5,000 to 10,000 years ago.

What does this show? This means that until 10,000 years ago, there were children of Adam. It cannot be that Adam lived 4,000 years ago; he must be beyond 10,000 years ago.

Let’s continue and see where it stops. Basically, where it stops, probably a few years before that is when Adam existed.

• 10,000 to 15,000 years ago: We have this in France—a beautiful drawing. By the way, these are people who never trained in art; this was probably his first or second painting. He never went to school. Imagine sending a child today to school and asking him to draw a cow or a bull—could he do this good of a job? Probably not. This shows that these were actually fully developed humans; they were not evolving. They don’t look very good only because they are on a stone and drawn with fire, not with electricity. They started a fire, someone helped with the fire, and he drew a picture—and it was probably his first picture. Look how good it is.

• 15,000 to 20,000 years ago: Again, very advanced art in France. This looks like horses with some dots, or donkeys or whatever existed then in Europe. Picasso probably likes to do some of this stuff—look at Picasso photos and you’ll see similar things, or maybe he stole the ideas from here.

• 20,000 to 25,000 years ago: Again, a cave in France with shapes of heads of horses and lions.

• 25,000 to 35,000 years ago: Here we have animals again from 25,000 years ago. Some of the caves go over many years: someone drew something, and then 5,000 years later someone saw that and added something to it. But scientists can know exactly by carbon dating when each of them was done. Here we have a cave in Romania—look, the shape of the cow is amazing here. It’s really hard to do these shapes. You can see it’s sophisticated shapes; they didn’t forget the tail details.

• 35,000 to 40,000 years ago: We have these in Indonesia. This looks like a pig; this looks like a cow. Now, these are a little bit questionable because some say that these are even older, but some say that these are around this age.

We can see that until about 40,000 years ago, there were definitely humans. No one else could have done this except for humans—except for children of Adam—because they are the only ones who have the ability for art, and they are also the only ones who have the ability to name things.

The conclusion from this is that the children of Adam, or Adam, must have been created or existed before 40,000 years ago.

Archaeological Statue Data and Neanderthal Timeline

I wanted to do the same thing with ancient sculptures or statues. Here I had a bigger advantage because with paintings, some include different things done by different people, so it’s hard to classify them as one painting or two or three. But with sculptures, you can classify them: this is one sculpture, so basically you can count them.

I asked AI something slightly different to give me a better picture. Question to AI about the number of statues:

“Please tell me, to the best of your ability, how many human-made statues or sculptures have archaeologists found for each 5,000-year period from 5,000 years ago until 60,000 years ago…”

I excluded the first 5,000 years because there are millions of sculptures now; I just wanted to know about the past ones.

“…Include only the cases for which there is a scientific consensus?”

Because some of them are debatable: they found something which looks like a flute in Slovenia, and some say it’s just a bone which was bitten by a wolf, while some say it was used as a flute. So those are questionable. I wanted only the ones where scientists fully agree.

Here is the answer:

These are sculptures which people have found to exist from that time. How do they know that they were made in that time? Because they have carbon dating and also the layers of the ground and all of that; there are different methods.

And look where it ends: after 45,000 years ago, zero. Zero after that.

Now, I wouldn’t rush to conclude 45,000 exactly, because maybe those statues which were found were done at 39,000 years ago instead of 41,000, as there’s a slight range there. So, we cannot know the last one for sure. But based on the sculptures, we can conclude Adam must have lived before 40,000 years ago. Because definitely at 35,000 to 40,000 years ago there were sculptures, and we know these can only be done by humans. Which means that Adam must have existed by then.

So again, we’re reaching a similar conclusion: about 40,000 years ago, sculptures stop; about 40,000 years ago, cave paintings stop. Which means that Adam was probably soon before that—45,000 years ago, 50,000 years ago, something like that. It took some time for people to spread and start painting. Because a lot of those are in France; it took people time to get there.

This gives us the lower limit; now I want to know the upper limit.

The Recurring Pattern of Human Conquest

As scientists generally know, when humans came—what they used to call Cro-Magnon, but they don’t use that term anymore, though it was a more modern term—basically, the ancestors of humans, when Cro-Magnon came, they killed the Neanderthals. This is basically human behavior always.

What happened when Europeans went to America? What did they do? They killed pretty much all of them, even though they were not even Neanderthals—they were humans. But if a group of people finds another group which is a little bit weaker, they will kill them. How fast did they go extinct? About 200 or 300 years.

Same thing in Australia: they went there, there were people there—Aboriginals or whatever they call them, natives of that country—and what happened? They almost went extinct. If it wasn’t for the state, they would go extinct, they would vanish. It’s just that the state protects them, otherwise they would vanish. Why? Because that’s what humans do.

So the same thing happened to Neanderthals: humans came into existence, and they killed them all, pretty much. They also had reasons, like if your sister or daughter sleeps with a Neanderthal, of course you’re going to kill them. Whatever, I’m joking now. But what I’m saying is, they killed them anyway. They killed them anyway because they didn’t actually see them as humans—they saw them as animals. So one way to know when humans started to exist is just to check when Neanderthals stopped existing.

Question to AI about Neanderthals:

“Please tell me, to the best of your ability, how many Neanderthals lived for each 5,000-year period from 5,000 years ago until 100,000 years ago.”

Here we have a table produced by AI:

The population didn’t change much over tens of thousands of years; depending on the climate and ice ages, sometimes they produced more, sometimes less. It didn’t change much. Then, when humans came into existence—which we already know from the paintings should be around this time—look, the Neanderthal population almost immediately starts to vanish. It goes to 8,000, then 3,000, 500, then zero. Within about 10,000 or 20,000 years, they go extinct. They vanish!

Why? Because humans killed them, or gave them diseases, or starved them by taking all the animals they hunted.

According to this, we can see that humans (Adam) must have existed before 55,000 years ago. In the other case, we found the lower limit; here, we are finding the upper limit, the more ancient time. Between those two limits, that’s where Adam was created. According to this table, Adam was probably created around 50,000 to 55,000 years ago. I know exactly when he was created, but I’m just kind of following the logic anyway.

Synthesis & Conclusion

What is the conclusion from all these tables?

• Based on ancient cave paintings, Adam must have lived before about 40,000 years ago.
• Based on ancient statues, Adam must have lived before about 40,000 years ago.
• Based on Neanderthal population estimates, Adam must have lived after about 55,000 years ago.

If we combine all these three facts, we reach the conclusion that Adam lived between about 40,000 years ago and 55,000 years ago. Between this time, Adam must have lived according to scientific facts.

God willing, in other Friday sermons I’ll tell you from the Quran exactly when Adam and Noah lived. The Quran tells us specifically—not a range, but the exact year. God willing, you’ll enjoy that even more. From science, we concluded approximately when Adam must have lived.

For those who have to do the contact prayer, do the contact prayer. The rest of you, peace be upon you.

 
Friday Sermon by: Alban Fejza, Online Congregation Director

Sermon Introduction

Praise be to God. There is no other god except God.

In the last Friday sermon, we concluded that Dhul-Qarnayn is also the DNA. Before that, we concluded that it was Cyrus the Great. In the last sermon, we concluded that Dhul-Qarnayn, the one with two horns, is DNA. And then I said that there’s more than one meaning into what the one with two horns means. So the Quran mentions the one with two horns, and it has quite a few meanings.

The last meaning I want to talk about—because let me just say that there’s one more meaning which I’m just going to skip, is the DNA of the humans or human-shaped beings, and then there’s another meaning, the DNA of humans—for all of them you can actually learn something, but I’m going to skip because we can include them in the DNA in general.

The Magnetosphere: The One with Two Horns

But the one I want to talk about is more different. The one I want to talk about today is that the one with two horns—basically with horns, we concluded, are those like twisted shapes. In this case, another meaning is the magnetosphere. The magnetosphere is one with two horns. It has two poles.

Let me show the photo. So it’s this one.

So basically here we have a representation. It’s not a photo. You cannot take a photo of it. But it’s an illustration of the magnetosphere. What is the magnetosphere? It’s just basically a magnetic field which comes out of the earth, and it has a north pole, one horn, and then it has a south pole, another horn. And the further from the magnetic poles they are, they kind of bend more. So basically there are, there might be actually horns which are straight. As you can see, there’s two horns here. One in the south pole, one in the north pole. So we can understand that the one with two horns is the magnetosphere.

And let’s now read the verses of the Quran and see how it actually makes sense when we read all the verses and we can learn things from it. For those who like science, these sermons are fun in the sense that they learn both religion and science at the same time. Anyway, yeah, let’s read the verses which talk about the one with two horns while trying to understand them as the magnetosphere, the one with two horns.

Surah 18, Verse 83: Establishing the Path Downward

So it says—we’re going to read the same verses as last time, but now slightly differently translated. Again, all meanings are correct. Let’s not focus too much on why it was different last time. In the Arabic, it includes them; in English, we have to choose one specific meaning anyway. So let’s read now the verses in Surah 18, verse 83. It says:

[18:83] They ask you about the one with two poles (magnetosphere).—So it has two poles, magnetosphere—Say, I will tell you about it a lesson to remember. [18:84] We established it on earth—of course, the magnetosphere is established on earth. A lot of other planets don’t have it. Some of them do. We established it on Earth and gave it a path through everything. Why? Because it goes through everything. The magnetic field goes through everything on earth, including us. It goes through us. We established it on earth and gave it a path through everything. [18:85] So it followed a path, [18:86] until it reached the place where the sun disappears. It found the sun disappearing in a spring of black mud (Lava)…

Okay, let’s check how lava looks. Look, lava looks like black mud. So now in this case, we are going—actually, last time we went in the past and the future, one path, another path, but here now we’re going downward and upward. So as it followed one path, let’s say downward where the sun disappears. That’s where the sun disappears. It disappears downward. It found the sun disappearing in a spring of black mud. That’s basically the lowest layer that the sun reaches. I think lava comes from the mantle. I’m not sure, but I think it comes from the mantle of the earth. And the sun doesn’t go beyond the mantle, the sun rays beyond the lava.

…And it found a community of atoms. —In this case, we’re talking about non-organic communities— It found a community of atoms. We said, “O you with two poles (magnetosphere), you either punish (meaning repel them), or treat them good (attract them).” Because what do the magnets do? They either repel, they push away, or they attract, they bring towards you. So either you punish, meaning push it away, or attract it, bring it towards you. [18:87] It said: as for those in darkness, soon we will repel them—there’s magnets which are repelled, they are dark—then they will be returned to their lord and we will punish them with a terrible punishment. [18:88] As for those who believe (basically get attracted, and usually they are not dark like magnets) and did good, for them is a good reward. We will speak to them from our command gently.

And basically this pretty much includes pretty much all the other materials anyway.

Following the Path Upward Beyond the Atmosphere

[18:89] Then it pursued another way, [18:90] until it reached the place where the sun appears.

So now where does the sun appear? High, high, high above the sky. It found the sun appearing on a community of atoms. So basically in this case, let’s not forget we are following the path of the magnetosphere as it goes down through all the way to the earth’s core and then up all the way through the atmosphere and beyond. And then it’s going to follow another way all the way to the earth’s core. Where was I? Let’s continue reading. Okay, let me continue here:

[18:89] Then it pursued another way, [18:90] until it reached the place where the sun appears. It found the sun appearing on a community of atoms—Another way is now up—of atoms for whom we did not create any covering, (magnetic field), from it, (the sun).

So basically once you pass all the way through the atmosphere and beyond there, the magnetic field becomes less and less and there’s no protection from it. Because what does the magnetic field do of the earth? It protects us from the sun rays, from the sun radiation, the bad rays of the sun.

[18:91] Naturally we were aware of it.

Returning to the Middle Altitudes: Atmospheric Barriers

[18:92] It then followed another path, —now all the way down to the earth— [18:93] until it arrived between the two barriers.

Let me see if I actually got this right. Oh yeah, actually it is in the atmosphere still. So now it’s between the highest and the lava. Let me repeat it again, sorry. So first the path which it took was all the way down to the lava. Not all the way down to the core of the earth because it’s going to be mentioned later, you’ll see. And then it went all the way up, and now somewhere in between. Somewhere in between is the atmosphere, like neither too high, neither too low.

[18:93] Until it arrived between the two barriers, (the tropopause and the stratopause)…

Tropopause is basically the place where the troposphere ends, and the stratopause is the place where the stratosphere ends. These are actually important for us not to get UV rays. In the stratosphere, that’s where the ozone layer is and all of that.

… He found beside them a community (of atoms of oxygen) whose language it could barely understand (Paramagnetic).

Basically, oxygen is paramagnetic. What does paramagnetic mean? So as we concluded, there are materials which are non-magnetic, meaning that the magnets do not affect them, including the earth’s magnetic field. I don’t know, plastic—I’m not sure if plastic is non-magnetic, things like that. Because it gets attracted by the magnetosphere, oxygen is in between. It’s barely magnetic, so it’s neither magnetic nor completely non-magnetic, so it’s paramagnetic. But that’s why it’s “whose language could barely understand.” It’s mostly, almost completely non-magnetic, the oxygen, but there’s a tiny bit of pull. The magnets pull the oxygen a tiny bit, just a tiny bit. Anyone can check it with AI: “is oxygen paramagnetic?” and it will tell you, and it will tell you what paramagnetic means. It’s a tiny bit magnetic.

Gog and Magog: Radiation and Particle Threats

[18:94] They said—basically the oxygen atoms which are in the atmosphere—”O you with two poles, (magnetosphere), fast fires (radiation), And where the fast fires are placed (particle radiation)…

By the way, the radiation from the sun comes in two forms: one is in waves, which is let’s say UV rays—I don’t know what type of rays come from the sun, lots of different types of rays, different lengths—and particle radiation, like protons, electrons come from the sun shooting. And if there was no magnetosphere, they would actually reach all the way down to the earth and destroy the atmosphere, first of all. They would just kind of wash away all the atmosphere from the earth gradually, and then they would also destroy us. Those are dangerous radiations, especially the particle radiation, but all types of radiation. Basically, the only safe form of radiation is the one which we see and radio waves partly, but the one which we see is the safest form of radiation, which is the sunray the way we see it with our eyes. Everything we don’t see, including the phone radiation, all of that is a little bit dangerous, but not too much. I’m talking about the radio waves. But when it comes to waves with high energy like UV rays, X-rays, those are really dangerous, very dangerous. And particle radiation is even more dangerous, I’m guessing, it depends on how much there is. So yeah, the magnetosphere is supposed to protect us from that. So let’s go back to the verse.

[18:94] They said, “O you with two poles, (magnetosphere)—The magnetosphere protects the oxygen, meaning the atmosphere, from being washed away, being blown away by the sun radiation. “Fast fires, (in Arabic Gog and Magog), and the place where the fast fires are placed”, because where does the radiation come from? The radiation comes from the atoms. That’s where the radiation is placed. So it can come as radiation or as a particle. So the “fast fires, (meaning radiation), and where the fast fires are placed, (particle radiation), are causing damage on earth.” —And today scientists know that they do damage the earth, if they reach earth. “Can we give you something so that you can create between us and them a barrier?”

Cosmic Iron and Core Discontinuities

[18:95] It said, (The magnetosphere said) “What my lord established me on is better, but help me with strength. I will make between you and between them a barrier. Bring me layers of iron.” As we know, iron came from the cosmos, from up, and it went through the oxygen. And by the way, even in the stars, first it was from hydrogen, it was created into different types of metals, I think carbon and oxygen, and then through silicon, different types of other metals, it became iron. So basically iron was created in the stars, but through oxygen. So oxygen sort of brought the iron, or another way to look at it is that the iron came from space through the oxygen. So basically iron went down, oxygen went up.

[18:96] “Bring me layers of iron.” Once it filled the gap between the two barriers (that are called in science the Gutenberg discontinuity and Lehmann discontinuity)…

They should have called them barrier, but they call it discontinuity. What does it mean? Okay, let me explain. So, I hope you guys can see.

So, here between the inner core of the earth and the outer core of the earth, we have the Lehmann discontinuity. And here between the outer core and the mantle, we have the Gutenberg discontinuity. That’s basically how scientists know that there is an inner core and an outer core, because when the earthquake waves—or some other types of waves, but mainly earthquake waves—happen, when earthquakes happen, there are waves which spread through the earth from them. Scientists will go in different portions of the earth, different parts of the earth. They never reach down there, so they’ll probably go all the way to the other side of the earth. They have instruments which measure those waves, the waves from earthquakes. And what they noticed—and those waves will pretty much tell them what’s inside the earth with advanced models, of course, not just looking by detecting them—so what they detected is that there’s some discontinuity at this level and at this level, meaning that the waves bounce or they deflect or they go faster or whatever that means. So there’s a discontinuity there, which means there’s a barrier. You can think of it as a barrier where the waves bounce back or deflect or change direction.

So here, these discontinuities, we can call them barriers. Let’s continue reading them, which are down in the earth’s core. So basically now we are learning where the magnetosphere comes from. Where does the earth’s magnetic field come from? It comes from the earth’s core. And let’s see how it happens. So, I’m going to repeat some of the readings so I don’t skip anything.

[18:94] They said, “O you with two poles, (magnetosphere), fast fires (radiation) and where the fast fires are placed, (particle radiation), are causing damage on earth. Can we give you something so that you can create between us and them a barrier?” [18:95] It said, “What my lord established me on is better, but help me with strength. I will make between you and between them a barrier.

The Planetary Dynamo: Solid and Liquid Cores

[18:96] Bring me layers of iron.” Once it filled the gap between—by the way, layers again. In the earth’s core, the iron exists in what they call crystallized form, meaning that all the atoms are layered in exact specific rows. So they are layered—usually the iron which we find doesn’t have the exact layer in a crystallized core, they are kind of more disordered, but in the core, because of all that pressure, they have to be ordered in order to take minimum space. So they get sort of a perfect order which you can see as layers, either vertical layers or horizontal layers. [18:96] …“Bring me layers of iron.” Once it filled the gap between the two barriers, (which we saw what the barriers are), it said, “Blow until it made it fire.”…

So basically, what is it? Iron which is fire at the same time. We know that the earth’s core is iron, almost all iron and some other heavy metals, but mostly iron, and it’s in fire form because of all that pressure. The pressure heats it. “Bring me so that I can put on it molten metal.” And now we have—see,

…“bring me so that I can put on it, (meaning on top of it), molten metal”, —and that’s the outer core. The outer core is liquid metal. The inner core, ironically, someone would think because it’s hotter, it would be actually gas or liquid, but it’s actually solid. It’s even hotter, but it’s solid. That’s why they are distinguished. The inner core is solid metal. The outer core is liquid metal. And the difference between these two, as the outer core which is liquid rotates around the solid one, sort of moves—imagine them like rivers moving around it—that’s where the magnetic field comes from. That’s where the protection from radiation in the end comes from. Isn’t it interesting, at the depths of the earth we get our protection from the radiation from the sky?

[18:96] Then it said, “Bring me layers of fire. Once it filled the gap between the two barriers, it said, ‘Blow until it made it fire. Bring me so that I can put on it molten metal.’” (This is the outer core). [18:97] Thus they, (the radiation), could not go over it or penetrate it. We can understand this two ways: either it cannot go through the earth’s core, or it cannot go through the magnetosphere, because now the earth’s core is helping maintain the magnetosphere, and the magnetosphere is protecting us from radiation.

The End of the Protective Barrier

[18:98] It said, “This is mercy from my lord, but when the promise of my lord comes, he will cause it to crumble. The promise of my lord is inevitable.” [18:99] At that time, we will let them, (the two types of radiation), invade with one another. Then the horn will be blown. —Maybe invade here I think in Arabic it also says goes on top of each other because they are waves. We’ll let them go on top or through each other. The literal meaning in Arabic is wave, kind of like the wave goes on top. [18:99] …Go on top or through each other. Then the horn will be blown and we will summon them all together to create life again. [18:100] We will present hell on that day to the disbelievers. [18:101] They are the ones whose eyes were too blind to see my message, nor could they hear.

So basically, again, in this case we can understand it as the magnetosphere which has two poles, two horns. Let’s repent. Toubou ila Allah.

Understanding Multiple-Meaning Verses

Praise be to God. There is no other God except God.

I think what’s more important than what we’ve spoken so far in the last three days is to understand that all those meanings are correct. Honestly, it’s not that important that we’re talking about the magnetosphere or the DNA because all of them fit with those verses of the Quran, or Cyrus the Great. What’s more important is that the Quran says—let me say the verse first and then understand why it’s important. In the Quran, there’s a verse which says that the Quran has single-meaning verses, straightforward verses, and multiple-meaning verses. Those who believe, they say all the meanings come from God. As for those who disbelieve, they will try to choose one specific meaning.

Basically, what’s important, the most important part is that we don’t say, “Oh, it’s DNA and nothing else.” Well, if Dhul Qarnayn meant DNA and nothing else, God would say DNA. God would be straightforward. Or let say it’s legs and nothing else. Well, if God wanted to say legs, he would say legs. Legs are mentioned in the Quran. He didn’t use that word here. If God wanted to tell us legs, he would tell us legs. But here it’s a multiple-meaning verse. The one with two horns, which means many things, which means that we should be open-minded. And that’s what a believer is with multiple-meaning verses. So basically, believers are more open-minded with multiple-meaning verses. They say, “Okay, this meaning seems true, that also seems true. This seems a bit more true.” So all of them are correct. Now, not every—of course, the one with two horns doesn’t talk about legs because legs are mentioned in the Quran and they are specified what they are, but it does mean it does have more than one meaning. We sort of spoke about three meanings so far.

The Danger of Intellectual Dogma

And probably even more important than that is that we never fight over these, and especially especially when someone finds something themselves, if you’ve thought of this yourself. So, last time, kind of I helped a lot, but whatever. Last time when I asked you guys to guess, I think Adam guessed that it sort of had to do with chromosomes or whatever, the DNA. By the way, it was not a coincidence that he guessed it. I think Adam, just so you guys know, he studied in Harvard—is it Harvard or Oxford? Adam, can you tell us where you studied? Oxford or Harvard? Which one was it? Oh, Cambridge. Okay, sorry, Cambridge. One of those. One of those. Okay. So yeah, I don’t think it’s a coincidence that he found it. We have nerds in our community who know this stuff. Anyway, I’m joking, Adam. I’m joking. So yeah, I think it’s good that he found it.

What I’m saying is, especially when someone finds it themselves—let’s say if you read something in the Quran and you’re like, “Oh, wait a minute. This could be DNA, or this could be that, or this could be that”—what happens is your opinion looks so much more in a better fit, a better opinion than the others. And then it can close your mind to other things. So it’s dangerous. It can close your mind to the idea that maybe it’s something else as well. And unfortunately, a lot of communities, including let’s say the Sunnis and the Shias, because Muhammad might have told them one meaning. So let say someone said, “Oh, what does this verse mean here? What does the middle prayer mean, for example?” and Muhammad probably said ‘Asr, like the afternoon prayer. So now they are stuck into it because that’s the first thing they knew. That’s the only way they want to understand it. The middle prayer in the Quran means more than one thing. It means the afternoon prayer if you measure it from let’s say from the first prayer when you wake up: dawn, noon, afternoon, that’s the middle prayer. Or it can also be—I think it’s more accurate, but both of them are correct—is the noon prayer, because the Quran mentions the night and the day, the night comes before the day, so the first should be the night prayer, then the dawn prayer, then the noon prayer. So now the middle prayer is the noon prayer. And both of them, by the way, are correct, and you can reach the conclusion about the five prayers, or four, or three, whatever is the situation in your location, with both understandings. You can reach the correct conclusion. That’s why God kind of mentioned it as the middle prayer.

And unfortunately, even let’s say the Quranists or whatever different communities, they only stick to one understanding. They just don’t want to change. It’s ideology rather than belief. When you just stick to one understanding, it’s ideology, it’s dogma. It’s not really belief. And this applies to verses with multiple meanings. When it comes to verses with one single meaning, which are the straightforward verses, of course we don’t keep our mind open to, “Oh, maybe this, maybe that.” There’s, for example, we know that there is only one god. There’s no other god except god. We’re not open to, “Oh, maybe there’s some half gods, maybe maybe Jesus is god, maybe he’s not.” We are not open to those ideas because it’s straightforward. The Quran is straightforward about that. But there other things, like Dhul Qarnayn. If you didn’t ask them probably they would, or if we didn’t inform them about this, they would probably never know. So it’s soft information. It’s information which has multiple meanings, and especially because it’s multiple meanings, that means that God put many meanings into one. So when you tell them one of the meanings, it’s never fully convincing. It’s quite convincing, but it’s never fully convincing because it’s only part of the meaning.

Partially Accepting the Text

Do you see the point? Like especially because it is multiple meanings, when I say Dhul-Qarnayn is Cyrus the Great, of course it’s not going to be 100% convincing. I know that. But it’s true. However, it’s not 100% convincing because it’s not 100% of the truth. It’s just whatever—if you whatever I don’t know divide it by 7, 12% whatever it is, 15% I have no idea, 15% maybe, something percent of the truth. So you’re just telling them part of the truth. Of course, it’s not going to be absolutely convincing. And by the way, for those who insist on only understanding one specific meaning, one specific way of understanding those verses or any other multiple-meaning verses, what they are actually doing is they are rejecting most of the Quran when it comes to those verses. Because let say you understood 1/7th of the Quran for those verses and you reject all the other meanings, what are you doing? You’re rejecting most of the Quran. And then there’s a verse in the Quran which says that the disbelievers are those who accept the Quran partially. So they accept part of it, but they reject the other parts. And that’s what people do. By sort of sticking to only one meaning, they accept one part but they reject the other one. And that’s a feature of disbelievers, not a feature of believers. Believers have it clear: straightforward verses, we are not open-minded to other meanings, there’s only one meaning; multiple-meaning verses, we are open to more than one meaning so that we can accept all the Quran, not only a part of the Quran. Someone might say, “Oh, which verses are multiple meaning verses, which are single meaning?” whatever, God willing I’ll make a video about it, but also it’s kind of very natural. You can understand. If the Quran says Dhul Qarnayn, the one with two horns, it’s not easy to understand, it probably has more than one meaning. God didn’t make it vague on purpose so that you don’t understand, it was because it has multiple meanings.

Q&A Section: Atoms as Communities

Anyway does anyone have any questions? And let’s keep it short today.

So, Faisal is saying, “Is 18:88 a prophecy of some sort? How does it attract believers only?” I’ll have to think about it. But where is 18:88? “As for those who believe, basically get attracted, and did good, for them is a good reward.” We are talking here about atoms, not really believers in this way of understanding it. It says, “how does it attract believers only?” So here we’re talking about—think of them as atoms, not humans, because all of these are the communities, are communities of atoms, not communities of humans. Does that answer your question? Okay, so yeah, it does answer your question. Anyway, because the whole time you were talking about atoms as communities or molecules, however you want to understand them.

One more question. I think Jad is about to ask something or say something, and then we’ll finish, God willing. So the Quran does mention the word community, but the word community doesn’t say community of people, any type of group of things. There’s a community of birds mentioned in the Quran, different communities.

Q&A Section: Translating for Multiple Meanings

So Jad is saying, “When understanding a specific meaning of a verse, should the rest of the Quran be translated to be related to that meaning, or it doesn’t need to be?” Okay, I would say yes. Generally yes. The answer is generally yes. That’s why we have to have many, many versions of the Quran translated, God willing. We don’t have to because we don’t have to understand the multiple meaning verses absolutely completely, but the more the better. That’s why, God willing, we’ll have many translations of the Quran. God willing, I’ll make more than one translation of the Quran. We’ve already done some Surahs. Because then now if we understand it in this meaning, as you can see, if we think of the communities as atoms rather than people, then we have to translate the next verse in a way where it makes sense, where we would have to say it or instead of he and things like that. So yeah, generally yes. In some cases, it might be the same—let say verses can fit, the same way of translating it can fit for both cases. So it depends, but for most cases, yes.

Closing Remarks

Okay, we have to go now. Sorry guys, because I don’t want to delay—whatever question you have, maybe we can talk another day. Because I’ve been holding very long Friday sermons recently, I want to sort of try to stick to approximately half an hour.

Okay. So, for those who have to do the contact prayer, do the contact prayer. The rest of you, peace be upon you.

Friday Sermon by: Alban Fejza, Online Congregation Director

Introduction and Recap of the Last Sermon

Praise God. Praise be to God; there is no other god except God.

In the last Friday sermon, I spoke about Dhul Qarnayn, and we concluded that Dhul Qarnayn was Cyrus the Great—I think he is also called Cyrus II. We concluded that from the Bible and pretty much from the Quran as well, a little bit. We used the Quran as a framework, and then we found the details in the Bible.

The topic is: who was Dhul Qarnayn? Dhul Qarnayn is mentioned in the Quran. It means “the one with the two horns,” and we concluded that it was Cyrus the Great, one of the people who helped the Jews. He traveled on one side of the earth, on the other side of the earth, then another side. We know that.

Linguistic Insights into the Quranic Text

According to Arabic, but many other languages as well, when God says “he”—even in Albanian—it does not automatically mean a gender like a male. Sometimes in a lot of languages, actually in most languages except for English and a few others, “he” is used for objects as well. For example, in Albanian, the TV is a “he” and the microwave is a “she.” I don’t know how they came up with this, but it is just grammar. That is why in the Quran, when God says “he,” it does not automatically mean that He has male organs; it just means that languages have only two genders, and those genders are sometimes used for objects as well, for things.

In Albanian, for example, a mountain, mali, is a “he,” while a hill is a “she.” We can go deep into the psychology of why people decided to call some objects “he” and some objects “she.” Psychologically, I think it has to do with the fact that things which do things to others are usually called “he”—kind of like the more dominant things which act on others. Things to whom things are done, are usually perceived as female, psychologically, and that is why they use those different genders. Let’s say a river in Albanian is a “he,” lumi, because it can do things to you. But a tool, you do things to it, so it is a “she.” A stick in Albanian is a “she.” This is also in Arabic, sort of; it uses those gendered nouns for things, as do most languages.

What that means is that when God says “he” about Dhul Qarnayn, it does not necessarily mean it is a human male. First of all, it never says it is a human. Second of all, when it says “he,” we can literally translate it as “it” in English as well. God willing, when I read the translation, I can use the word “it” as well, because, again, we haven’t concluded necessarily that it is always talking about a human.

The Prophetic Nature of Quranic Terminology

How do we know it is not necessarily talking about a human? First of all, why would God tell us about Dhul Qarnayn, the one with two horns who is Cyrus the Great, and not just say Cyrus the Great? God could have just said Cyrus the Great. People knew the name of Cyrus during that time, in whatever the Iranian or Arabic version was; they knew the name. God could have just used his name, but God didn’t. The reason for that is because the Quran is revealed for all times, and therefore, for our times, we can learn more from those verses, not just about Cyrus the Great.

We learned the history of Cyrus the Great, but at the same time, using the same language which the Quran uses, we can conclude other things. At the end of the day, Cyrus the Great doesn’t really concern us. He was important for the Jews: for the believers of that time, for the Children of Israel of that time. He was important for that, but he is not really important for us. Do we even care if Cyrus the Great existed or not? Yeah, we know who he is, but it doesn’t matter to us much. That is why God uses double meanings, many meanings, in those verses. Those verses which mention Dhul Qarnayn: “the one with two horns”, have many meanings. The one with two horns has many meanings: some meanings refer to the past, and other meanings refer to our time so we can understand other things.

Defining the Symbolism of “Horns”

Let’s try to find out together what the one with two horns is. Before we find out what it is, first of all, let’s define what a horn is. What is a horn?

These are horns. What do they have in common?

Let’s define what a horn is. First of all—what can we conclude?

• They always come in two. I don’t want to use the word “pairs” because it is a repetition, but maybe I have to use it in English, I guess: two pairs, or a pair, let’s just say two.

But what are they made of?

• They are made of organic material. All horns are made of some specific stuff. Also, they usually have bones inside, so that is organic material. So, two organic materials which mirror each other. As we can see, the left horn is always almost the same—not exactly the same, but almost the same—as the right one. We can say they mirror each other.

So far, we have defined it this much: horns are two organic materials which mirror each other, useful for living creatures.

The Biological Purpose: Protecting the Offspring

What are they useful for? What is the function of the horns? Biologists—the people who study these things—I don’t think they have fully reached a conclusion. They have reached a conclusion for the most part. I don’t think they fully understood the depth of why animals have horns, why some animals have horns and others don’t. If you ask a lot of them, they will either say sexual selection, meaning that they are used to show the females which male is stronger or has more protective strength, or they say to protect against predators. For example, the horns of the bull might be used to protect against predators.

Again, we are trying to define what horns are. Horns are two organic materials—I’m defining it right now as we go. Horns are two organic materials which mirror each other, useful for living creatures to do what? This is what I want to explain. If horns were only for protection—let’s say if the bull used the horns only for protection—it would be easier for the bull to invest all that energy which goes into growing new horns, because it takes energy to grow them, and it also takes energy to have them because they are heavy, so it is going to take lots of energy. It would be better for the bull to actually just use that energy for strength to run away. It would be much better for the bull to run away from the wolf than to actually fight it.

Then why does the bull, why do some creatures have horns and others don’t? A rabbit, for example, a rabbit doesn’t have horns. When a wolf chases a rabbit, what does the rabbit do? It runs. It invested all its energy into having fast muscles, and it is going to run away. But the bull doesn’t do that, or it might try to run away, but it also has horns. Why do some creatures have horns?

The reason is to protect their offspring. Basically, what they use the horns for—because the bull can run away, but if the bull has a pregnant mate, let’s say a cow, and if a cow is pregnant, the cow cannot run away. If the bull runs away when the wolf comes, the wolf is going to eat the cow. When she is pregnant, she cannot run. If she has just given birth, the calf—the young cow or the young bull—cannot run either. It cannot run as fast. It can run a little bit, but not as fast. So, there is a period of time when the offspring of the bull, which could be inside the pregnant mother or just very young, is vulnerable. During that time, the best thing for the bull to do is to fight the wolf. In this way, it protects the offspring, the child, rather than running. If the bull runs, the child is going to be eaten.

What we have concluded is that the horns are useful for the protection of the offspring. The bull doesn’t need the horns for itself, because rabbits, which don’t have horns, have small offspring that can hide in holes and dens, don’t need horns. Other creatures (mammals) which can run, or creatures which don’t have vulnerable times. But there are mammals which have vulnerable times, like cows or sheep. I think sheep produce only once a year, and it might be during that time when the wolves will try to eat the lambs. The ram technically has the horns mostly to protect the lamb, not for himself. Himself, he could run; it would be better for the ram (the male sheep) to run from the wolf than to try to fight it. The only reason why he chooses to fight it is because he is trying to protect the lamb and the female partner. So, The horns are two organic materials which mirror each other, useful for living creatures to ensure the continuation of their offspring, basically their children—I don’t know if the word “children” can be used for animals—to ensure the continuation of their offspring. And this is the time when I want you to chat. Now, can someone tell me what else fits this definition? So let’s delete the word horns from the definition.

“______ are two organic materials which mirror each other, useful for living creatures to ensure the continuation of their offspring.”

Connecting Dhul Qarnayn to Modern Science (DNA)

This is the definition of horns. Can we fill in the blank here with something else? What are two organic materials which mirror each other, useful for living creatures to ensure the continuation of their offspring?

• Chat 1: “Mitosis”
  • Alban: “Okay, close enough”
• Chat 2: “Legs”
  • Alban: “Legs are not to ensure the continuation of your offspring. They are to ensure the continuation of you.”

What passes from the parent to the offspring?

• Adam Fraser is saying, “Chromosomes”
  • Alban: “Very close Adam. But what are they made of?”
• Trevor said, “Genomes”,
  • Alban: “Yes.”

What I want to say is DNA.

Maybe I should have divided it more. Horns are two organic materials of helical shape, shaped like helixes, shaped like a helix. We saw the shapes of the horns; they are shaped like a helix, and they mirror each other. So, it’s the DNA we’re talking about. The two horns—it’s talking about the DNA, because the DNA… let’s go to the DNA shape. Look at the shape of DNA.

It’s like two horns: one horn and then another horn, and they mirror each other. Technically, these are all microscopic two horns, two horns which are very small. That’s what the DNA is: two horns.

The Discovery of the Double Helix

How I came to discover this is because, years ago, I remembered that in my biology class in the US, in my fourth year in high school—biology was never actually my favorite subject—but I do remember the teacher showing us something about how they discovered the DNA. I think it was a photo of DNA, this photo.

I was amazed at how they found it out, because it’s not actually about biology; it’s more about math and physics.

This is the photo which a woman scientist took; it’s called Photo 51. Basically, it’s just X-rays passing through what is supposed to be DNA. This is Photo 51. There are many other photos which don’t necessarily have this shape, but this one was interesting because it was from a specific angle which showed this shape. Including all the other photos and all the other shapes, the people who discovered that DNA is a double helix used really advanced math and a real-life model to try to figure out which shape would give this shade, because this is technically just a shade through crystals. I don’t know exactly what the method is, but basically, this is an X-ray. They had to imagine, using math as well, what shape would be the cause of that shadow. Because with X-rays we only see the shadow, a 2D shadow. Imagine that this is the shadow of the DNA. They discovered it without ever having seen it; they had never taken a photo of the DNA, but through this shadow and other shadows from other angles, they managed to discover that only a double helix will create that shadow. That’s amazing. That’s why I remembered it, because it had to do with math. I was like, “Wow, they must have been geniuses.” They discovered from the shade what the shape of the DNA is.

Re-evaluating the Quranic Narrative

What I mostly remembered is not just DNA, but that it is called a double helix. Technically, DNA is a double helix; that’s the informal name, double helix. It means two twisted shapes, which is pretty much two horns, because horns are helixes; horns are twisted shapes. We saw how horns look; they look like twisted shapes. Basically, we can replace the words “two horns” in the Quran with the words “double helix,” because it’s the same thing: two horns, double helix. Let’s see what we have. Once we do that, we realize that the Quran is actually telling us the story of the DNA, the story of the double helix.

God willing, we’ll read the story of Dhul Qarnayn again, but instead of thinking of him as Cyrus the Great, we’ll think of it as the double helix. God willing, in one of the future translations, instead of saying “two horns,” it will say “double helix”. Meaning two twisted shapes which are horns and which mirror each other, of course.

Before we do that, let’s first of all repent. Toubou ila Allah

The Linguistic and Genetic Roots of “Qarnayn”

Praise be to God; there is no other god except God. Let’s read the Quran now. Let’s go to the Quran, and instead of saying “two horns,” which is the literal meaning… oh, by the way, it makes sense. That’s why in the Quran, when we go to the Quran glossary, Surah 18, verse 83, I think that’s where it’s mentioned. It says,

“They ask you about Dhul Qarnayn.”

If I click here on Qarnayn, it means horn, but it also means generations.

By the way, the word “generation” has the same root word as “genes.” “Generations” is just like “gene”; it’s the same word in English. Generations means the next offspring, and the next offspring, and the next offspring. It’s the same word in English: genes and generations come from the same word. The root word is also telling us that it’s talking about genes, not only about horns, but also about genes which pass on from generation to generation. That’s what genes do: they pass from generation to generation. It’s pretty much the only thing which passes from one generation to another generation. All the other materials in the human body, or the body of living things, are different, but the genes pass from one generation to another.

Now let’s read this surah knowing that we are talking about the double helix, which also means genes. Let’s read the whole section and try to understand, actually for the first time, what it can teach us. Most of it is already discovered, but it can teach us the journey of the DNA. Let’s read that part of the Surah with this other understanding. I’m going to go to Surah 18, verse 83. This is how I translated it, and this might be one of the translations for this part of the Surah.

Quran • Surah 18:83–86

“They ask you about the one with the double helix (DNA)—the one with two horns, the one with two generations, two genes.

[18:83] They ask you about the one with a double helix (DNA), Say, “I will tell you something about its history.”

It is actually telling us the history of the DNA, how the DNA travels from the beginning until the end, because DNA has been here pretty much almost from the beginning of the earth, and it’s going to be here until the end of the earth. It’s telling us the journey of the DNA.

By the way, I am using a more literal translation. Almost word for word from the Arabic, more than Rashad. Rashad kind of gave himself more liberty.

[18:84] We established (created safety for) it on earth and gave it instructions for everything.

What does DNA do? It has instructions for life.

[18:85] So it followed the path.

Of course, DNA traveled from generation to generation throughout history.

[18:86] Until it reached the place where the sun disappears…

Here we’re not talking about the sunset; here we’re talking about when the sun ends at the end of times, when the sun basically gets destroyed.

The Scientific Symbolism of the Black Hole

Quran • Surah 18:86 (Continued)

[18:86] …It found the sun disappearing in a pupil of black material (black hole), …

In Arabic, it means spring, but it also means pupil; it means the part of the eye, the retina, the circular part of the eye. It says, “in a pupil of black material,” which is like the black part of the eye, but this is the same thing which happens in a black hole. A black hole is just a spring where materials go in and they never come back. Why are they the same, the pupil of the eye and a black hole? They have pretty much the same concept because the reason why the pupil, the most central part of our eye, is black is because the light goes in and it never comes back; it gets absorbed by our eye. Then, as a chemical or electrical reaction, it goes into our brain. I don’t know exactly what kind of reaction, but basically, the light disappears there; it gets absorbed in the eye.

Just like in a black hole, when the light goes in, it disappears and never comes back out. When light hits our skin, for example, part of it comes back, it goes back. When it hits any part of our body, part of it goes back. But when light hits the black part of our eye, the part which sees, it never comes back. That’s why it’s black. It’s the same thing with black holes, and that’s why the word “spring” is used in the Quran. It says it is setting in a spring of dark mud. When you look at the word “spring” in Arabic, ayn, it also means eye.

The root word means eye, spring, eye. The word spring and eye come from the same root in Arabic. The reason is because springs in the desert typically have a circular shape like an eye, and usually, they have some kind of color and a darkness in the middle where it’s deep. That’s why they use the same word. What’s more amazing is that whatever happens in the eye is exactly what happens in black holes: light enters and it never comes back. That’s the most important part.

Now, this is telling us how the sun will end. It says, “until it reaches the place where the sun disappears,” meaning at the end of times, “it found the sun disappearing in a pupil of black material, a black hole.” I explained in the video about The End Times that the way the world will end is that all the stars will be put together, and physicists know that when you put a lot of material together—let alone all the stars, but if you just put a million stars together, not even all of them, just a million is enough—they are going to create a black hole. There is so much material in one space that it creates a black hole; it bends space, and then when light enters, it never comes back, which is why it’s dark. That’s why they call them black holes; they should have called them dark holes rather than black holes, anyway, it doesn’t matter.

Basically, it’s telling us that when the DNA reaches the end of time—by the way, this also tells us that there is going to be DNA at the end of time, which means that there will be people, animals, and creatures until the end of time. When they reach that end of time, the Quran says that the stars will be all put together and thrown into hell. As the stars are put together, they will create a black hole. So basically, the sun—and the sun is one of the stars—will end up in a black hole as they are being put together.

Quran • Surah 18:86–88

[18:86] … It found the sun disappearing in a pupil of black material (black hole), and it found a community there, (people). We said: “O you with a double helix, you may either punish or treat them good.”

[18:87] It said: “As for the one who wronged, soon we will punish him. Then he will be returned to his Lord, and He will punish him with a terrible punishment.

DNA might be used because the Quran says that that is the day when God will make the skins talk and the fingers talk. DNA might be used, meaning… I don’t know, are the bad people going to be created a bit more ugly? I don’t know how the DNA will be used, but probably they might turn out more ugly. DNA will be like, “Oh, I’m not going to be nice to you this time; how about you’re ugly this time?” You know what I mean. Anyway, it’s going to be used just like the skin will be used, our tongues will be used, our eyes will be used against us if we are disbelievers. If people are disbelievers, their organs will be used against them, and also their DNA.

[18:88] “As for him who believed and did good, for him is a good reward. We will speak to him from our command gently.”

Journeying to the Beginning of Creation

Quran • Surah 18:89–93

[18:89] Then it pursued another way.

The DNA, we are imagining, traveled all the way to the future, and now it’s pursuing another way, all the way to the past.

[18:90] Until it reached the place where the sun became apparent…

This means the start, the beginning of times. By the way, this is important to explain: what the Quran calls the sun, moon, and stars is the way we perceive them, meaning the 2D shape, not what the astronomers call the sun. When the Quran says “sun,” it means as we see it, meaning the 2D shape. Astronomers call it the sun disc or the moon disc—basically what we see in the sky as a disc, not as a ball. That’s why the Quran says the moon becomes like an old, curved sheath; it changes shape. It actually doesn’t happen to the 3D moon; it happens to the 2D moon. It’s like the way we use the word “profile” today. When we say to someone, “Send me a profile,” what we mean is the 2D picture; we don’t mean the full 3D face or 3D body. The actual, real face is us, but when we say profile, we mean the 2D representation of that. In the same way, the Quran speaks to us from our perspective. So when it says sun, moon, and stars, it’s talking about the way we see them. That’s why the sun disappears; the 3D sun doesn’t actually set, it’s still there, but the Quran says that the sun does set, meaning that it’s talking about the 2D appearance, what we see in the sky.

What this means is that when it says “when the sun became apparent,” it’s talking about when the sun became apparent on earth, not when the sun was created. It’s the first time when the sun became apparent on earth. You can sort of see this in the video clarification which has to do with the seven days of creation. There you can see that the sun appeared and disappeared, and things like that, because of the atmosphere. There were gases and things which covered the sun, so it was not fully seen on earth. But here it’s talking about the beginning. Not the beginning of the sun, but the first time the sun appeared on top of the DNA.

… It (The DNA) found the sun appearing on a community (of cells) for whom we did not create any covering from it (atmosphere).

Of cells of course, because then there were no creatures, just a community of cells.

Of course, because then there were no creatures, just a community of cells. “For whom we did not create any covering from it.” In the beginning, when the simple cells were created, there were no complex organisms; it was just separate cells. At that time, before plants existed, there was no oxygen and no protective atmosphere. It’s basically through plants that most of the atmosphere was created, most of the oxygen, which forms the ozone layer that protects from the sun. So they had no protection. Basically, in the beginning, the cells which had the DNA didn’t have much protection from the sun, and this actually tells us a lot because this helped with mutations, meaning that it helped DNA change faster so that things could be created. Once you hit the DNA with sun rays, ultraviolet light, and all types of light when there’s no atmosphere, it creates more mutations. It makes evolution faster and harsher—meaning that some creatures will be created faster, but it’s also going to be harsher on other creatures, and they will die faster.

Let’s go back to reading from this part:

[18:89] Then it pursued another way.

[18:90] Until it reached the place where the sun became apparent. It (The DNA) found the sun appearing on a community (of cells) for whom we did not create any covering from it (atmosphere).

We know how the situation was from the video clarification where I talk about the seven days of creation.

[18:91] Naturally, we encompassed the (genetic) information with him.

The Arabic text only says “information”; I added “genetic.” We encompassed the information with it, so basically, God and the angels knew what information was inside the DNA.

[18:92] Then it followed another path.

So basically, it went all the way in the future, where the sun disappears. Then all the way to the past (almost the past), where the sun appeared (on earth)—where the sun was first seen on earth. And now it’s going on another path from the past towards somewhere in the middle (almost middle).

[18:93] Until it arrived between the two barriers…

The Cellular Barrier and Mitochondria

The two barriers are the membranes of the nucleus. The nucleus of the cell has two membranes, one on top of the other, and this is interesting because this membrane did not exist in the beginning. Cells did not have nucleuses in the beginning; there was no nucleus. Later on, it created this protective barrier where the DNA is protected, which was not there in the beginning. It’s telling us that at some point, the DNA reached a place where there were nucleus membranes inside the cell.

Quran • Surah 18:93–98

[18:93] … He found besides them a community (of mitochondria)…

Later we’ll see why mitochondria are that community. Mitochondria are just organelles inside the cell. There are about 100 to 2,000 mitochondria in each cell. Since there’s about a thousand mitochondria in each cell, we can call them a community.

… whose language (meaning genetic code), it could barely understand.

This is what’s amazing, how this shows that it’s really talking about the DNA, because mitochondria are the only part of the cell which has its own DNA. The whole living cell uses the DNA which is found in the nucleus, in the center, but mitochondria have their own DNA. Mitochondria are just small parts in a cell—a community, the Quran calls them—but they have their own DNA. Because it’s different, it’s not exactly the same DNA as the one in the nucleus, it says, “whose language, meaning genetic code, it could barely understand”. Meaning that they have their own language. It’s amazing, right? We’ll see why it’s talking about mitochondria, because it fits completely. They have their own genetic code, meaning their own language, which is not really understood well by the DNA in the nucleus.

[18:94] They said: “O double helix, the fast fires (enzymes which speed up the chemical reactions) and where the fires are placed (probably different types of proteins) are causing corruption on earth.”

The mitochondria said this to the double helix when they were created at some point in time. Scientists probably know approximately at what time cells started to have mitochondria; they didn’t have mitochondria before, but at some point, they started to have them. In the Quran, it says Ya’juj and Ma’juj. In English, they assume that it’s Gog and Magog, but in Arabic, the words Ya’juj and Ma’juj literally mean “fast fire.” It’s not talking about Gog and Magog necessarily; it’s talking about fast fire. Ya’juj means fast fire, and in Arabic, when you add the letter ‘m’ to the beginning of a word, it means the place where that thing exists. For example, sajda is prostration; you add the ‘m’ in the beginning and it becomes masjid, the place of prostration. This happens with a lot of these things; adding the ‘m’ in the beginning creates a place. Probably even Mecca means some kind of place. Basically, Yajuj and Majuj are the fast fires and the place where that fast fire is placed, the place where that fast fire exists.

What is a fast fire inside a cell? It represents enzymes, which speed up chemical reactions. Basically, the enzymes in the cell take chemical reactions which would happen slowly and speed them up. Chemical reactions are the fires, so they speed up the fires. The fast fires mean enzymes, and the place where the fires are placed, probably represents different types of proteins where those enzymes are attached and things like that are causing corruption on earth. Because these enzymes can also damage the genetic code in the mitochondria. Basically, mitochondria are not protected from that, and the mitochondria are telling the DNA in the nucleus, “Can you protect us from these fast fires, from these enzymes? Can we give you something so that you can create a barrier between us and them?” This tells us that initially, the mitochondria didn’t have any protection, and then we’ll see how DNA created the protection for them.

[18:95] It said, “What my Lord established me on is better, but help me with energy (O mitochondria)…

Anyone who really knows this stuff can tell you that the mitochondrion is where energy is stored. “But help me with energy”—basically, the DNA is telling the mitochondria, “Just help me with the energy.” That’s what mitochondria do: they produce the energy. Then it says,

… I will make between you and between them a barrier.

[18:96] “Bring me layers of iron.”…

Where is the iron stored in the cell? In the mitochondria. Mitochondria use iron to produce energy.

… Once he filled the gap between the two cliffs, …

These cliffs are the membranes of the mitochondria.

… it said, “Blow (the oxygen).” Once it was fire, (oxidized)…

In chemistry, “fire” just means oxidized. When chemists say fire, they mean oxidized.

… it said, “Bring me copper to pour on it (to help with iron metabolism).”

Basically, copper in the cell helps metabolize iron faster or better, and iron is used by the cells to produce energy. These are in our bodies. Basically, the DNA helped structure where the iron is going to be, and it helped the mitochondria with that.

[18:97] Thus (the enzymes), they could not go over it or penetrate it.

Because of these irons and coppers, which help the mitochondria produce energy, and the membranes which surround them, the enzymes which would be damaging to them could not go over it or penetrate it; they couldn’t go and damage the mitochondria.

[18:98] It said, ‘This is mercy from my Lord, but when the promise of my Lord, (programmed cell death), comes

Cells die in two ways. In quite a few verses in the Quran, when it says “the promise of God,” it refers to death. When the promise of God comes, quite often in the Quran it means death; we can see that in other verses. But here it’s talking about the death of the cell. Cells can die in two ways: one is by accident, like if you damage it—if I pinch my skin here, some cells will die, which is accidental. The other way is programmed, and almost all cells have a programmed death. What it means is that the DNA tells the cell when to die so that the cell can free up space for a new cell. It dies, it gets degraded, it’s chopped up by different molecules in our body, and then it is flushed out. All our cells die pretty much; I don’t know about neurons, you can check it out, it doesn’t matter, they also die in the end when we die. Here it is telling us that the death of the cell has been pre-programmed.

It said, “This is mercy from my Lord, but when the promise of my Lord, (programmed cell death), comes, He will cause it to crumble…

 The barrier between the mitochondria and the enzymes is going to crumble, and the enzymes will rush in and destroy everything, meaning that it’s just going to become a mess. That’s pretty much how cells die. “Inevitable” is the word used in the Quran.

… The prophecy of my Lord is inevitable, (pre-programmed.)”

Programmed Cell Death and Resurrected Life

Quran • Surah 18:99–101

[18:99] At that time, we will let them, the dangerous chemicals, invade one another, …

The cell is just going to become a bunch of dangerous chemicals invading one another.

… then the horn will be blown, and we will summon them all together (to create life again).

Basically, those chemicals are going to be reassembled, and then life will be created again.

[18:100] We will present hell on that day to the disbelievers.

[18:101] They are the ones whose eyes were too veiled to see my message, nor could they hear.

The Quran is telling us the story of the double helix, which is the story of the DNA, and all the verses fit. We can learn a lot about the cell:

• how it was in the beginning,
• how it will be in the end,
• and how it was in the middle of what we call evolution.

It also sort of confirms partially what scientists know about evolution. Of course, this is a better way to teach evolution because it’s saying that God did it; it’s saying that God did it through DNA, but it’s also not denying that the DNA traveled through all those creatures.

This is another way to understand it. Because there are two more things the two horns can refer to. Let me just say it quickly. One other thing it can refer to is the DNA of humanoids, meaning Neanderthals and creatures which looked like humans; you can learn a lot from that as well. It also refers to the earth’s magnetic field, the two poles—North Pole and South Pole—the magnetic field of the earth. Honestly, I think we spent too much time on this; I might talk about it someday, or I might not. Just know that the two horns refer to Cyrus the Great, it refers to the double helix which is the DNA, and it also refers to the magnetic field, the two poles of the earth which protect from the fast fires. Basically, we can translate the whole thing again and use the magnetic poles of the earth and see that it all fits again, and it’s going to tell us a whole new thing. Maybe I can just use that in a translation and you guys can realize what it means. I might not do another Friday sermon with it, or I might, I don’t know, I’ll see, God willing.

Q&A Session

Does anybody have any question?

Adam Fraser: Did DNA evolve on Earth or was it created as is?

I wouldn’t call it evolved, but yeah, it did change; let’s call it it did change, yeah. There were mutations. Good that you asked this question because here I translated it as enzymes, but another thing those barriers protect from is radiation from outer space, and that radiation actually has changed the DNA. So yeah, if you use scientific terminology, you can say DNA evolved, but there are really exceptions, though, like humans were created from scratch. Our DNA started pure. The Quran says that the human was created in the best form, then we turned them sort of into monkeys, meaning that there was mixing of humans with Neanderthals and other creatures around the world which were human-shaped. So yeah, it’s confirming most of evolution, but there are so many things which it does not extend to, like the creation of humans. I think that there was intervention in the creation of animals versus plants, so there was a specific intervention there, but most of it was just kind of like evolution, which Rashad calls creation. It’s actually God’s way of creating things, creating the living bodies in this world.

Jad: The word for misery here can also be translated as dust, i.e., being dark, so maybe yeah, they will be resurrected ugly,

Yeah, okay, very likely.

Faisal: So when transcription and translation happens, does it count as the barrier being broken?

I don’t know about that. You can think of it like that, but basically, the DNA is passing to another cell. You can say that the barrier is broken, but it’s just passing to another cell. Is the barrier broken necessarily? I don’t know. A biologist will know. I don’t know enough about how the splitting of cells happens, but do they actually die or do they… I think they just split, they don’t die anyway.

Question: “Bring the iron” is it set by the mitochondria or DNA?

Okay, so I think it’s set by the DNA, sorry. Basically, the DNA is telling the instructions to the mitochondria, but the mitochondria are doing it. Here in the Quran, it says, “Bring me layers of iron,” so the DNA is telling the mitochondria what to bring. By the way, this is also one interesting thing: it doesn’t say iron, it says layers of iron. This is very interesting because iron on earth always exists as it gets oxidized, what they call iron ores, meaning that iron cannot really exist on earth in a pure form; oxygen always attaches to it. That’s why you see the red rust on the iron unless you split it into layers, and those layers happen naturally on what they call iron crystals, I think. I don’t know exactly, but they do happen in places with lots of pressure. Also, when iron is absorbed in the body, it is not exactly iron; it’s actually created into layered shapes so the oxygen is not allowed to attach to it. I think they have a name; I probably can find it. Let me search it. What is the organelle or whatever which transports iron called? Ferritin or something, I don’t know. I think they have some kind of name like that. Whoever knows biology might know it. It’s kind of like a protective shell around the iron, and it has layers of iron in it, so it protects the iron from being oxidized.

Trevor: Do you plan on making a video about how Adam was put on Earth?

I guess so, yeah, very likely.

Faisal: From what I remember, the RNA strand goes in and out of the nucleus, and enzymes help transcribe the genome from the DNA strand. So I was curious how this fits with the verses about the barrier.

Yeah, I thought of that because I said, what if the RNA is actually the one with two horns? But actually, the RNA is just one strand, and it exists so that the DNA doesn’t have to go out of the nucleus. Basically, based on what you’re saying, I think it probably doesn’t mean that the barrier is broken; it’s just that the RNA goes in and out. It’s some sort of messenger which transfers the information from inside the nucleus to outside the nucleus. It doesn’t mean that the barrier of the mitochondria was broken. So I would say this answers your previous question: it’s probably not referring to that. Definitely, it’s not talking about RNA; RNA might be the friend of Dhul Qarnayn, I have no idea. Let’s imagine Dhul Qarnayn was a king, so let’s imagine he has a servant who does part of his job, like helps him do stuff, yeah.

Faisal: RNA does function as a messenger, true.

Okay, so I have to end it here because it’s almost an hour; it’s actually an hour that we spoke. For those who have to do the contact prayer, do the contact prayer. The rest of you, peace be upon you.

Friday Sermon by: Alban Fejza, Online Congregation Director